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Schengen Visa refused at French Consulate...appeal?

Post by javale » Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:14 pm

Hi!

I was going to go to Paris for a weekend so I applied for a Schengen visa at the TSL centre.
It took two weeks and I got my passport today with no visa at all.
I supplied every single document and I got no explanation as to why my application was refused.
i have a good job in London, a workpermit that runs out in one year, money in the bank, insurance for up to 35000 euros, a hotel confirmation issued directly by the hotel and eurostar tickets.
I'm thinking about appealing against that decision.
Have you guys had any experience with appeals?
What do you recommend?

Thanks!

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Re: Schengen Visa refused at French Consulate...appeal?

Post by dsanchez » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:14 am

javale wrote: I was going to go to Paris for a weekend so I applied for a Schengen visa at the TSL centre.
why you didn't apply in the french embassy in London? what's the TSL centre?

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Post by Plum70 » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:44 am

The TSL centre is the new contact centre contracted by the French Embassy to deal with visa applications.

To the OP: what were the reasons for refusal given by the embassy? Please post verbatim.

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Post by javale » Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:36 am

Plum70 wrote:The TSL centre is the new contact centre contracted by the French Embassy to deal with visa applications.

To the OP: what were the reasons for refusal given by the embassy? Please post verbatim.
Dear Sage:

Thanks for poting.

I jut got my passport with a stamp instead of a visa. That's it. No reason as to why my visa application was refused.
I thought it was going to be really straightforward but I guess I was mistaken.
I want to appeal... I wanna know the reason... if there's one.

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Post by Plum70 » Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:18 pm

javale wrote: I jut got my passport with a stamp instead of a visa. That's it. No reason as to why my visa application was refused.
ok - any remarks/comments/coding on the stamp?
I thought it was going to be really straightforward but I guess I was mistaken.
Every application is assessed on its own merit and a number of factors are considered in the decision making process. This is why knowledge of the refusal reason(s) would help.
I want to appeal... wanna know the reason... if there's one.
There would surely be one. Contact the embassy and request a disclosure of this information so that in your appeal you can sufficiently address any concerns that they have and provide sufficient documentary evidence to support your case.

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Post by javale » Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:33 pm

Hi!
I undestand that every application is considered on its own merit.. I want to apply because I want to know the reasons why I was refused.

On the stamps says as follows:


"Visa C FR
17 NOV 2010
Consulat Général de France á Londres"

That's it

Thanks!

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Post by Plum70 » Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:09 pm

javale wrote: On the stamps says as follows:
"Visa C FR
17 NOV 2010
Consulat Général de France á Londres"
Ok - I'm none the wiser seeing that! Just request a disclosure of the refusal reasons/appeal and take it from there.

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Post by vinny » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:15 pm

Perhaps they forgot to put the visa in the passport?
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Post by xjessie007 » Sun Aug 07, 2011 3:33 pm

I have a question, did you get just your blank passport back, or was it accompanied with some letter too? In case it was accompanied by a letter, the letter should say the procedure for the visa appeal. This source (Schengen visa appeal) says that France provides 60 days visa appeal period and that the visa appeal goes to the "Commission de recours contre les décisions de refus de visa d'entrée en France". It is also possible and sounds like they perhaps just have forgotten to process your passport (?). It would be unusual and very strange, but anything can happen.

PS: I am confused by your post about the stamp, can you post a picture of it?

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Post by PaperPusher » Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:03 pm

Spammer re-opening a post from 2010.

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Post by xjessie007 » Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:43 pm

What is bad on answering older posts? The important point is that people are able to find answers, and perhaps my answer will help to someone else being in the same situation now. I hope my answer is helpful. Writing a 6-line reply is not something spammers do. I do not think I deserve to be called a spammer when I spend my time writing a 6-line reply! Please.

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Post by acme4242 » Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:41 pm

@xjessie007, your link is to a spam/fraud site, euro-dollar crap
please remove it.

To answer correctly such an old question from 2010, for the record.
By law, a refusal must be given in writing with a justifiable reason and appeal process details.
Article 32 of the Schengen Visa Code is the law covering refusals.
And here is the Standard form they must fill in. its an Annex of the Schengen Visa Code http://www2.mfa.gr/softlib/Annex_25%20% ... efusal.pdf

Schengen Visa Code (Law)
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/Lex ... 058:EN:PDF

Article 32
Refusal of a visa
1. Without prejudice to Article 25(1), a visa shall be refused:
(a) if the applicant:
(i) presents a travel document which is false, counterfeit
or forged;
(ii) does not provide justification for the purpose and
conditions of the intended stay;
(iii) does not provide proof of sufficient means of
subsistence, both for the duration of the intended
stay and for the return to his country of origin or
residence, or for the transit to a third country into
which he is certain to be admitted, or is not in a
position to acquire such means lawfully;
(iv) has already stayed for three months during the current
six-month period on the territory of the Member States
on the basis of a uniform visa or a visa with limited
territorial validity;
(v) is a person for whom an alert has been issued in the
SIS for the purpose of refusing entry;
(vi) is considered to be a threat to public policy, internal
security or public health as defined in Article 2(19) of
the Schengen Borders Code or to the international
relations of any of the Member States, in particular
where an alert has been issued in Member States’
national databases for the purpose of refusing entry
on the same grounds; or
(vii) does not provide proof of holding adequate and valid
travel medical insurance, where applicable;
or
(b) if there are reasonable doubts as to the authenticity of the
supporting documents submitted by the applicant or the
veracity of their contents, the reliability of the statements
made by the applicant or his intention to leave the territory
of the Member States before the expiry of the visa applied
for.
2. A decision on refusal and the reasons on which it is based
shall be notified to the applicant by means of the standard form
set out in Annex VI.
3. Applicants who have been refused a visa shall have the
right to appeal. Appeals shall be conducted against the Member
State that has taken the final decision on the application and in
accordance with the national law of that Member State. Member
States shall provide applicants with information regarding the
procedure to be followed in the event of an appeal, as specified
in Annex VI.
4. In the cases referred to in Article 8(2), the consulate of the
representing Member State shall inform the applicant of the
decision taken by the represented Member State.
5. Information on a refused visa shall be entered into the VIS
in accordance with Article 12 of the VIS Regulation.
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