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Referee live & work abroad in professional capacity
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:01 pm
by cool mind
Hi,
Is there any member who succeed in naturalization by using one of the referee living & working abroad in professional capacity? Can someone living & working back home to the same country as the applicant is and is working top level government level job then can he act as referee for naturalization application by supplying all of his contact details??
Re: Referee live & work abroad in professional capacity
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:08 pm
by noajthan
cool mind wrote:Hi,
Is there any member who succeed in naturalization by using one of the referee living & working abroad in professional capacity? Can someone living & working back home to the same country as the applicant is and is working top level government level job then can he act as referee for naturalization application by supplying all of his contact details??
See similar case:
british-citizenship/british-citizenship ... e#p1239917
Re: Referee live & work abroad in professional capacity
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:11 pm
by cool mind
Your link does not work.
Re: Referee live & work abroad in professional capacity
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:22 pm
by Wanderer
cool mind wrote:Your link does not work.
Works for me
Re: Referee live & work abroad in professional capacity
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:28 pm
by cool mind
I can now read it but it does not answer in yes or no. If someone paste the official quote here and practical successful experience in doing so. Because I know one referee must be British and I am asking for 2nd referee which can it be from abroad common wealth country??
Re: Referee live & work abroad in professional capacity
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:51 pm
by noajthan
cool mind wrote:I can now read it but it does not answer in yes or no. If someone paste the official quote here and practical successful experience in doing so. Because I know one referee must be British and I am asking for 2nd referee which can it be from abroad common wealth country??
Did you read the guidance in the link - in particular section 6.3.7.7
- it tells all you need to know
Re: Referee live & work abroad in professional capacity
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:17 pm
by cool mind
Its still unclear because the guideline at 6.3.7.7 is saying that if the applicant is living abroad and don't know the British passport holder. But how about as my question that if the applicant is in UK but only knows one British passport holder then for 2nd referee can he use the referee live and work abroad??
Re: Referee live & work abroad in professional capacity
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 3:46 pm
by cool mind
Re: Referee live & work abroad in professional capacity
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 10:24 pm
by Universal soldier
cool mind wrote:Its still unclear because the guideline at 6.3.7.7 is saying that if the applicant is living abroad and don't know the British passport holder. But how about as my question that if the applicant is in UK but only knows one British passport holder then for 2nd referee can he use the referee live and work abroad??
It's indeed very tricky that's even the big big forum experts get silent.
Re: Referee live & work abroad in professional capacity
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:41 pm
by noajthan
cool mind wrote:Its still unclear because the guideline at 6.3.7.7 is saying that if the applicant is living abroad and don't know the British passport holder. But how about as my question that if the applicant is in UK but only knows one British passport holder then for 2nd referee can he use the referee live and work abroad??
Prof. referee doesn't need a British passport at least.
Why not nominate the person, try it & see.
As per the guidance, referees are not routinely contacted.
And if HO objects to a particular referee they will simply write & ask for another.
Re: Referee live & work abroad in professional capacity
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:34 am
by cool mind
Maximum how long before of sending application the referee should fill the form??
Re: Referee live & work abroad in professional capacity
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:37 am
by CR001
cool mind wrote:Maximum how long before of sending application the referee should fill the form??
Max 6 months
Re: Referee live & work abroad in professional capacity
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:06 am
by cool mind
CR001 wrote:cool mind wrote:Maximum how long before of sending application the referee should fill the form??
Max 6 months
Is that 6 months count from the day ukba received the application or the date when they decide application??
Re: Referee live & work abroad in professional capacity
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:43 am
by CR001
day ukba received the application
Re: Referee live & work abroad in professional capacity
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:16 pm
by cool mind
Whether the both referee should date the form at referee section on same date or their signing dates can be different from each other? Secondly, the 6 months rules as asked in previous post apllies to each referee's date of signing the form differently (respectively) or jointly??
Re: Referee live & work abroad in professional capacity
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:26 pm
by cs95tdg
cool mind wrote:Whether the both referee should date the form at referee section on same date or their signing dates can be different from each other? Secondly, the 6 months rules as asked in previous post apllies to each referee's date of signing the form differently or jointly??
There is no requirement that states that both referees need to sign the form on the same date. The requirement is for both referees to sign the form within 6 months of the date the home office receive your application.
Re: Referee live & work abroad in professional capacity
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:38 pm
by cool mind
cs95tdg wrote:cool mind wrote:Whether the both referee should date the form at referee section on same date or their signing dates can be different from each other? Secondly, the 6 months rules as asked in previous post apllies to each referee's date of signing the form differently or jointly??
There is no requirement that states that both referees need to sign the form on the same date. The requirement is for both referees to sign the form within 6 months of the date the home office receive your application.
But does that 6 months clock starts applies respectively depending on their dates of signing. For example the the 1st referee signed on 01/06/2015 & 2nd referee signed on 01/07/2015 then in this case is that correct that 6 months clock will apply respectively according to their dates??
Re: Referee live & work abroad in professional capacity
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:58 pm
by CR001
If HO receives your application on 1/11/2015, the dates of the referees signature must not be older than 30/4/2015, regardless of when in the 6 months they signed the form. It is not complicated, it is 6 months counting backwards from the date HO RECEIVES your application.
Re: Referee live & work abroad in professional capacity
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 4:10 pm
by cool mind
CR001 wrote:If HO receives your application on 1/11/2015, the dates of the referees signature must not be older than 30/4/2015, regardless of when in the 6 months they signed the form. It is not complicated, it is 6 months counting backwards from the date HO RECEIVES your application.
But what I am mainly asking that if the referee has filled & signed at entirely different dates then whether that 6 month clock will apply both of them respectively as per their dates?????
Re: Referee live & work abroad in professional capacity
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 4:29 pm
by CR001
You are really over complicating this. They both need to sign, on whichever date, WITHIN the 6 months period counting backwards from date HO receives your application. I can be the first day of the 6 months or the last day of the 6 months, it DOES NOT matter. The 6 months applies to YOU and the day HO receives YOUR application.
Also bear in mind that the forms do change and you would need to ensure you are completing and they are signing the most up to date form.
Re: Referee live & work abroad in professional capacity
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:27 pm
by cool mind
CR001 wrote:
Also bear in mind that the forms do change and you would need to ensure you are completing and they are signing the most up to date form.
How about if the old form gets change and referee has already signed old form then can these referee pages be add to new form if these section of referees has not been changed??
Re: Referee live & work abroad in professional capacity
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 2:09 pm
by CR001
If the pages haven't changed it should be fine. This year, the two different versions of the forms, the referee pages were a bit different.
Re: Referee live & work abroad in professional capacity
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 2:16 pm
by cool mind
CR001 wrote:If the pages haven't changed it should be fine. This year, the two different versions of the forms, the referee pages were a bit different.
Usually when the form changes? Any news when next the form is changing??
Re: Referee live & work abroad in professional capacity
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:31 pm
by cool mind
I suspect the form may change after 5th November when English language requirement changes? Will they change referee section??
Re: Referee live & work abroad in professional capacity
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:08 pm
by cs95tdg
cool mind wrote:I suspect the form may change after 5th November when English language requirement changes? Will they change referee section??
Unfortunately I don't think anyone can answer that question until after that date. It's probably best to wait and see. Personally I doubt those pages will change, unless they decide to change the form version - in which case the footer details on the form would change. Page numbering may possibly also change. From previous poster experiences, what I've gathered is that they have accepted older versions of the form during transition periods.
I'll be applying in mid November, so am keeping an eye out to see if a new version is published as well.
