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Can my wife apply for ILR now?

Post by weiw3 » Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:04 am

Hi all,

I am new here.

My wife's situation is -

1. First Entry Clearance granted in Jan 2011, using Work Permit Dependent
2. Extended Visa in Aug 2012 as ILR Spouse, valid for 2.5 years

My question is, can she apply for ILR now under the 2 years rule? Or, she has to extend her spouse visa for another 2.5 years first, and then apply for ILR after she serves her 5 year at the end of the 2nd 2.5 years visa?

Any idea?

BTW, I am a British now and my wife is a Chinese.

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Re: Can my wife apply for ILR now?

Post by physicskate » Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:47 am

weiw3 wrote:Hi all,

I am new here.

My wife's situation is -

1. First Entry Clearance granted in Jan 2011, using Work Permit Dependent
2. Extended Visa in Aug 2012 as ILR Spouse, valid for 2.5 years

My question is, can she apply for ILR now under the 2 years rule? Or, she has to extend her spouse visa for another 2.5 years first, and then apply for ILR after she serves her 5 year at the end of the 2nd 2.5 years visa?

Any idea?

BTW, I am a British now and my wife is a Chinese.
It seems she was granted a spouse visa in line with the new rules. She needs to spend 5 years on a spouse visa in order to apply for ILR.

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Re: Can my wife apply for ILR now?

Post by weiw3 » Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:54 am

When did the new rule come into force?

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Re: Can my wife apply for ILR now?

Post by physicskate » Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:59 am

weiw3 wrote:When did the new rule come into force?
6 July 2012. Under the old rules, a spouse visa was granted for 2 years (24 months). Because your spouse's visa was granted for 30 months, she seems to be granted under the new rules. If her application was made before 6 July 2012, and this is a mistake, it really should have been contested when it was granted.

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Re: Can my wife apply for ILR now?

Post by weiw3 » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:38 pm

I think her visa application was put in after I have got my ILR, which was in Aug 2012. But her dependent visa was granted way before the new rule came into force. Will they not treat that as a continuously immigration status? Because, by the time she extended her visa first time, she have been in the country more than a year, which should be taken into account, since the new rule was not introduced at the time. We all thought she only need to serve two years period as my dependent/spouse, before she can apply her settlement at the time.

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Re: Can my wife apply for ILR now?

Post by physicskate » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:47 pm

weiw3 wrote:I think her visa application was put in after I have got my ILR, which was in Aug 2012. But her dependent visa was granted way before the new rule came into force. Will they not treat that as a continuously immigration status? Because, by the time she extended her visa first time, she have been in the country more than a year, which should be taken into account, since the new rule was not introduced at the time. We all thought she only need to serve two years period as my dependent/spouse, before she can apply her settlement at the time.
From 6 April 2014, time on PBS dependent cannot be added to FLR(m). Basically it reset her clock. Someone will hopefully correct me if I am wrong.

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Re: Can my wife apply for ILR now?

Post by weiw3 » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:09 pm

I was not on a PBS when I had my WP. It was an old WP. She was granted Entry Clearance as my dependent on that, than when I got my ILR in 2012, she applied for her extension.

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Re: Can my wife apply for ILR now?

Post by vinny » Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:11 pm

She could have applied for ILR with you when you applied for ILR from non-PBS work permit.

Perhaps she still is able to, under 196E.
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Re: Can my wife apply for ILR now?

Post by weiw3 » Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:18 pm

Vinny, didn't think she could. She wasn't in the UK more than 2 years when I applied for my ILR.

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Re: Can my wife apply for ILR now?

Post by vinny » Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:20 pm

There is no 2-year restriction for non-PBS work permit dependants.
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Re: Can my wife apply for ILR now?

Post by weiw3 » Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:24 pm

Oops...didn't know that! Can she still apply now?

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Re: Can my wife apply for ILR now?

Post by vinny » Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:26 pm

Yes, if she satisfies 196E, then she may apply for SET(O) now. Do read the rules.
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Re: Can my wife apply for ILR now?

Post by weiw3 » Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:39 pm

Which category shall she apply? Work permit holder dependant? But I am not on work permit since Aug 2012.

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Re: Can my wife apply for ILR now?

Post by vinny » Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:08 pm

The applicable rule (category) is 196E, if she satisfies all its requirements. I think that she is eligible, but do read the rules carefully, if I'm mistaken.

Note 196D(i)(2), etc. Moreover, 196D(ii) doesn't require 194(i) nor 194(viii)!

SET(O) (Dependant of a work permit holder - if you were a work permit holder immediately before being granted ILR).

However, if she applies for SET(M) under Appendix FM, then her time spent for SET(M) may have been reset, starting from when she got FLR(M).
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Re: Can my wife apply for ILR now?

Post by Amber » Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:47 pm

Did you settle on ILR as a work permit applicant or PBS applicant?
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Re: Can my wife apply for ILR now?

Post by weiw3 » Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:55 pm

Hi Vinny, she applied her visa last time usin FLR(M).

Amber, I settle on ILR as a work non-PBS permit applicant.

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Re: Can my wife apply for ILR now?

Post by vinny » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:03 am

weiw3 wrote:Hi Vinny, she applied her visa last time usin FLR(M).
I'm aware of that. 196D(iv) doesn't exclude that possibility. i.e. It permits that possibility.

Can you see anywhere that would make 196F applicable?
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Re: Can my wife apply for ILR now?

Post by weiw3 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:52 am

Hi Vinny, I have booked in with Solihull PEO for Thursday for her SET(O) application. All documents are in place apart from her work contract. She is employed by me... :-) The contract is not required on the application form. Shall I provide one?

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Re: Can my wife apply for ILR now?

Post by weiw3 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:09 am

Vinny, I just realized that 196D applies to "the partner of a person who has or has had leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom under ..." I am not on any leave to remain now. Does it matter? Would it make this clause invalid for my wife's application? Cheers!

I read and find that 196F doesn't apply to her.
vinny wrote:
weiw3 wrote:Hi Vinny, she applied her visa last time usin FLR(M).
I'm aware of that. 196D(iv) doesn't exclude that possibility. i.e. It permits that possibility.

Can you see anywhere that would make 196F applicable?
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Re: Can my wife apply for ILR now?

Post by Amber » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:10 am

It says has or has had, past tense.
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Re: Can my wife apply for ILR now?

Post by vinny » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:13 am

vinny wrote:Note 196D(i)(2), etc.
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Re: Can my wife apply for ILR now?

Post by weiw3 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:17 am

I thought about that as well, but not quite sure. My native language is Chinese :D Thanks for pointing it out, Amber! 8)
Amber wrote:It says has or has had, past tense.

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Re: Can my wife apply for ILR now?

Post by weiw3 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:25 am

Verified! Cheers!!!
vinny wrote:
vinny wrote:Note 196D(i)(2), etc.

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Re: Can my wife apply for ILR now?

Post by vinny » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:10 am

Good luck!

Print out the Immigration rules and take the printout with you. You may have to refer 196E, etc., to the caseworker.
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Re: Can my wife apply for ILR now?

Post by weiw3 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:36 am

Yes, Vinny, that is the plan. Thanks for all your advice! And Amber's as well! You guys rock!

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