Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

hb9 · Post by **hb9** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:31 am

Dear advisers,

I am an EEA citizen, and I am due to apply for my naturalization (As the spouse of a British citizen) in April 2019 and have been living (continually) in UK since 2008 and I saw that we have to fill in "Employment history in UK during past 10 years, or since date of entry if you have been here for less than 10 years". I am hoping to find an answer to a few questions. I've searched this forum for a number of days now but still am unclear on the following:

Firstly I entered the UK July 2004, worked for 3 months and come back home in March 2005
- In 2006 I have married with EU Citizen in UK (she was already live and work in UK from 2005)
- From November 2005 until 2008 I came to UK many times to visit my wife (sometimes I stayed one week / month but I never worked here in that time) and came back to my country.
- In 2008 I relocate to UK to live with my wife and children. I have worked around 2 months since arrived.
- My wife become British citizen in 2013
- I have employment gap from January 2009 to 2014 as I have not worked (unemployed). Would that cause an issue?
- In 2012 we started ltd company with my wife and I was director but the company was not active (no work) and have not taken any salary (no payroll) and dissolved 2013. So my question should I write this year as director or (from Jan 2009 – October 2014 unemployed)
- I volunteered from May 2014 until mid-October 2014 (should I write this in the employment history or not?
- Job: currently with a new job since October 2014.
- I got ILR last month on basis on EU settlement scheme (settled status).

Basically I asked if having the above employment gap hinders my chances of being naturalised as a British citizen through married route.
Relating the date of arrive July 2004 or Jun 2008?

Would really appreciate if someone can help? Thanks.

Post by **alterhase58** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:35 am

Employment as such is not a requirement for naturalisation - You just need to list the facts, i.e. periods employed incl. being director of your company and periods unemployed. For periods where you can't provide employment documents (P60, tax returns or employer letters) you need to use alternative official documents (Council tax, HMRC, DWP, child benefit, state pensions, etc.).
I think you only need to show details from 2008. You could apply as married to BC.

hb9 · Post by **hb9** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:22 pm

Thank you very much alterhase58 for your reply. Please I have other question regarding the employment documents, Should I need to Present payslip and p60 for the last 3 years only as I am applying as married to BC? or I need to present payslip and p60 or alternative official documents for the last 5 years?
or I need to provide this alternative official documents (Council tax, HMRC, DWP, child benefit, state pensions, etc.) from 2008?

I have payslip and p60, from 2014 until now from my company (As I am a Director but obviously also an employee in the business) from october 2014 until now is that sufficient? or I need to provide any other documents from 2008?

In the AN Form 1.45 What is your occupation? I am not sure what to write Dirctore or consultant? As I am employee as consultant in my company?

In the AN Form 1.46 Employee/A business partner/self-employed/director: I am not sure what to tick here- I am a Director but obviously also an employee in the business so can I tick both or just go for Director or for only employee?

I have reed in some posts that I do not need to provide any self assessment because I am employee in my company and the company issued payslip and p60? Is that correct?

In the AN Form 2.1 Date and place of first arrival in the United Kingdom (see page 8 of the Guide), I am confused and not sure which date should I write July 2004 or Jun 2008?

And finally I plan to fill in the form by hand and send all my documents in the post. Has anyone done this recently?

Many thanks for any help!

Post by **alterhase58** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:24 pm

hb9 wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:22 pm
Thank you very much alterhase58 for your reply. Please I have other question regarding the employment documents, Should I need to Present payslip and p60 for the last 3 years only as I am applying as married to BC? or I need to present payslip and p60 or alternative official documents for the last 5 years? P60 for the three years for the periods you were working or employed director, payslips not required
or I need to provide this alternative official documents (Council tax, HMRC, DWP, child benefit, state pensions, etc.) from 2008? Alternative documents only for periods you were not employed, not the whole 3 or 5 years. You need to list your employment though for up to ten years.

I have payslip and p60, from 2014 until now from my company (As I am a Director but obviously also an employee in the business) from october 2014 until now is that sufficient? or I need to provide any other documents from 2008? P60 from employers or alternative documents if not employed.

In the AN Form 1.45 What is your occupation? I am not sure what to write Dirctore or consultant? As I am employee as consultant in my company? Consultant is fine.

In the AN Form 1.46 Employee/A business partner/self-employed/director: I am not sure what to tick here- I am a Director but obviously also an employee in the business so can I tick both or just go for Director or for only employee? If you can tick both or if you can only tick one should be fine.

I have reed in some posts that I do not need to provide any self assessment because I am employee in my company and the company issued payslip and p60? Is that correct? I believe so.

In the AN Form 2.1 Date and place of first arrival in the United Kingdom (see page 8 of the Guide), I am confused and not sure which date should I write July 2004 or Jun 2008? I think it should be 2008 as you then stayed on.

And finally I plan to fill in the form by hand and send all my documents in the post. Has anyone done this recently? Recommend you use online and UKVCAS as you will retain your Passport/PR document.

Many thanks for any help!

hb9 · Post by **hb9** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:29 pm

Thanks a lot for your replay and help much appreciated.
P60 from employers or alternative documents if not employed for how many years? 3 or 5 or 10 years?

Many thanks for any help!

Post by **alterhase58** » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:25 am

hb9 wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:29 pm
Thanks a lot for your replay and help much appreciated.
P60 from employers or alternative documents if not employed for how many years? 3 or 5 or 10 years?

Many thanks for any help!

List of employment - up to 10 years
Documents for residency (P60 or alternative - 3 years

hb9 · Post by **hb9** » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:18 am

Thanks a lot alterhase58 - very helpful!

hb9 · Post by **hb9** » Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:46 pm

Hello and thank you very much for your answers.
I have 5 monthes unpaid work (voluntry) on one of the gabps years and my question is Should I put this volunteer work in the employment history? Or I can write all the period unemployed?
Many thanks in advance!

hb9 · Post by **hb9** » Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:31 pm

Hi, I am myself in a very confusing situation and would love to hear advice. I have other question please, In my gabs years I was a director for the company I set up with my wife for one year and it was not active (Not done any work) and dissolved after only one year, so I have not taken any salary or have any self assessment as I have not earned nothing. So my question is Should I write this year in the employment history as a director or as an unemployed?
Many thanks for any help!

Post by **alterhase58** » Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:33 pm

1) Voluntary work - not sure about this, presumably there was no contract of employment in place, in that case you were unemployed.

2) Director - maybe simplest would be to show the period as employed, perhaps provide document recording the dissolution of the company?

hb9 · Post by **hb9** » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:05 pm

Hi, I am still confusing regarding (2) as it was 2013 and I have not earned nothing (unactvie company, and not done any work or have not any pay) ? so presumably as I was unempolyed as I have not earned nothing ? Can I write unemployed? Is that correct?
Many thanks for any help!

Post by **alterhase58** » Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:59 am

Well you were actually employed - regardless of whether you got any pay. So stating "unemployed" wouldn't be correct.

hb9 · Post by **hb9** » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:09 am

Thanks a lot alterhase58 - very helpful and now is clear for me. I really appreciate your help. Many thanks again.

hb9 · Post by **hb9** » Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:11 pm

I am EU, have settled status and looking to fill AN for BC. I have a question and hope anyone here can give some advice.
Is settled status, regarded as an immigration application?
First question in the form: 1.1 Give any reference numbers used in your immigration applications: Should I leave this box blank? or I need to write the referance number showed in the HO letter?

Would really appreciate if someone can help? Thanks.

Post by **alterhase58** » Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:12 pm

Yes to both.

hb9 · Post by **hb9** » Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:58 pm

Hi,
I am filling form AN and would be grateful if someone please give advice on this point. These may be very basic question but I am confused.
I am EU Citizen and I used my EU ID for Life in the UK test and I'm supposed to submit it with the AN application together with my passport. is that correct?
My question is In the form AN 1.2 Current passport/travel document number: which one should I write my passport or ID?
Many thanks for any help!

Post by **CR001** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:24 am

Please keep all your questions in one topic. It is not necessary to start a new topic with each question you have.

hb9 · Post by **hb9** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:24 am

Hi CR001,
I will do and Apologise as I am new to this forum.
Many thanks

hb9 · Post by **hb9** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:43 pm

Hi,

I would be grateful for any advice to my question above (Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation), and Thanx for any help you will be able to offer me. I tried to find the answers to my question in past topics but I was not successful. I hope not to waste too much of your time.

Many thanks for any help!

hb9 · Post by **hb9** » Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:28 pm

Hi,
I am filling form AN and would be grateful if someone please give advice on this point. These may be very basic question but I am confused.
I am EU Citizen and I used my EU ID for Life in the UK test and I'm supposed to submit it with the AN application together with my passport. is that correct?
My question is In the form AN 1.2 Current passport/travel document number: which one should I write my passport or ID?
Many thanks for any help!

Post by **alterhase58** » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:38 pm

Use passport number.

hb9 · Post by **hb9** » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:57 pm

Thanks a lot alterhase58 - very helpful.

Sanj1 · Post by **Sanj1** » Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:23 pm

alterhase58 wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:24 pm

hb9 wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:22 pm
Thank you very much alterhase58 for your reply. Please I have other question regarding the employment documents, Should I need to Present payslip and p60 for the last 3 years only as I am applying as married to BC? or I need to present payslip and p60 or alternative official documents for the last 5 years? P60 for the three years for the periods you were working or employed director, payslips not required
or I need to provide this alternative official documents (Council tax, HMRC, DWP, child benefit, state pensions, etc.) from 2008? Alternative documents only for periods you were not employed, not the whole 3 or 5 years. You need to list your employment though for up to ten years.

I have payslip and p60, from 2014 until now from my company (As I am a Director but obviously also an employee in the business) from october 2014 until now is that sufficient? or I need to provide any other documents from 2008? P60 from employers or alternative documents if not employed.

And finally I plan to fill in the form by hand and send all my documents in the post. Has anyone done this recently? Recommend you use online and UKVCAS as you will retain your Passport/PR document.

Many thanks for any help!

So do you mean you need yo submit evidence that you are in the UK during gaps in employment eventhough the gaps are not within the 3-year or 5-year period?

I declared all employment since I came in the UK. I have 6 months gap in employment in 2012. And I did not declare any unployment period since the online form only asked about periods of employment. Also, did not submit any evidence of residence. I only submitted P60’s from 2014 for my 5-year qualifying period. Did I do something wrong?

Post by **alterhase58** » Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:31 pm

This is the standard advice based on the understanding of the requirements, experience and posts from members.
P60 is evidence of residency. UKVI may request further information for gaps if they deem it necessary - but it certainly isn't a reason for refusal.

Sanj1 · Post by **Sanj1** » Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:39 pm

alterhase58 wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:31 pm
This is the standard advice based on the understanding of the requirements, experience and posts from members.
P60 is evidence of residency. UKVI may request further information for gaps if they deem it necessary - but it certainly isn't a reason for refusal.

Ok. Thank you for your clarification.

So for future applicants, where do they put the reason for the gap in employment? There is no question or space on the online form? Or do they just scan a letter and upload it together with other documents?

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