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Birthright Citizenship Executive Order of 20th January 2025

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Birthright Citizenship Executive Order of 20th January 2025

Post by secret.simon » Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:56 am

Brithright Citizenship Executive Order of 20th January 2025
Among the categories of individuals born in the United States and not subject to the jurisdiction thereof, the privilege of United States citizenship does not automatically extend to persons born in the United States:

(1) when that person’s mother was unlawfully present in the United States and the father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person’s birth, or

(2) when that person’s mother’s presence in the United States at the time of said person’s birth was lawful but temporary (such as, but not limited to, visiting the United States under the auspices of the Visa Waiver Program or visiting on a student, work, or tourist visa) and the father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person’s birth.
This would seem to make US citizenship by birth stricter than even the UK's, which requires at least one parent to have ILR/lawful permanent residence (LPR) in the UK for the child to be born with British citizenship. Trump's version seems to require either both parents to have LPR status, or the father specifically to have US citizenship, for the child to acquire US citizenship at birth.

US birthright citizenship is broadly based on the Fourteenth Amendment to the US Constitution as interpreted by SCOTUS in United States v. Wong Kim Ark.

Of course, after the overturning of Roe v. Wade by SCOTUS a few years ago, I can see other SCOTUS judgements being overturned. So I would not put too high an emphasis on precedent. I'd expect a case on this topic getting to SCOTUS in the next legal year (2025-26) or the one following that.
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Re: Birthright Citizenship Executive Order of 20th January 2025

Post by Ticktack » Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:47 am

Birthright citizenship is a governmental policy under which any child born within a country's borders or territory is automatically granted citizenship in that country—even if their parents are not citizens.

At present, 33 countries in the world (and two territories) have unrestricted birthright citizenship, also known as jus soli, and another 32 nations have some form of restricted birthright citizenship.

Trump is planning to move from the unrestricted to restricted.

Hmmm, let's see what happens in the next 4 years. Even Joe Biden did the sign of the cross yesterday at the inauguration ceremony!
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Re: Birthright Citizenship Executive Order of 20th January 2025

Post by razergd1 » Sun Jan 26, 2025 3:19 pm

I guess that the UD courts will reject it. The issue is that other then diplomats everyone present on US soil is subject to US jurisdiction.
Ths is complicated one. Though I can understand the desire to move out from jus solo, however, this will require to redefine the term jurisdiction, which is difficult as the meaning in English basically means every person that the US local law is generally enforceable upon.

The second issue is procedural. Looking to the UK it's extremely difficult to manage your services to citizens with population register when the policy is restricted jus soli.
The UK government is an example for a messy citizenship system.
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