MN1 form related queries and referees.

Post by **CR001** » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:35 am

Born on or after 01/01/83 – Your ‘full’ birth certificate or adoption certificate that shows your parent’s details (the ‘short’ version which is issued for free by the registrar is not acceptable). – Not Applicable?

Sorry in the above she was born in UK after this date so I guess I need to her full birth certificate, if born abroad then registration certificate is enough, correct?

You still need her birth certificate as the paragraph below, which applies in your case, clearly states.

If you have naturalised or registered as a British citizen – your certificate of naturalisation or registration and the passport that you used to come into the UK and any foreign passport you hold or are included on. A ‘full’ birth/adoption certificate that shows parents details for applicants under 16 or a court order granting parental responsibility (if any are in place). Applicants 16 and over don’t normally need to give us their birth/adoption certificate.—Not Applicable?
THIS is the one relevant to her as she is applying to REGISTER as British!!

Sorry, I misinterpreted as parent’s naturalisation, it is related to child’s registration. So child registration after MN1 and her Full Birth Certificate will be sufficient (as she is <16). Do we require to submit Indian passport as well, which she got after birth in UK?

Yes and yes you will have to submit her Indian passport.

Evidence of applicants’ parent’s immigration status in the UK at the time of applicant’s birth

Parents’ passport at the time of applicant’s birth – Submit parents Indian passport, correct?

If fathers passport, the marriage certificate between applicant’s mother and father is needed.-submit marriage certificate??

This is required only IF the child was born AFTER you got ILR, which would have made the child automatically British. It does not apply to you.

curiousja · Post by **curiousja** » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:12 am

Many thanks!!!

curiousja · Post by **curiousja** » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:21 am

Many thanks for clarifying it all the points!

Sorry, one more thing, for my other child (born in India) after ILR, and AN form (will be 16 at the time). He needs only naturalisation certificate, and Indian passport (used to come to UK) and does n’t require birth certificate (as was not born in UK).

Thanks!

Post by **CR001** » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:22 am

curiousja wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:21 am
Many thanks for clarifying it all the points!

Sorry, one more thing, for my other child (born in India) after ILR, and AN form (will be 16 at the time). He needs only naturalisation certificate, and Indian passport (used to come to UK) and does n’t require birth certificate (as was not born in UK).

Thanks!

You would need to follow the checklist at the time. He also completes for MN1 REGISTRATION and NOT form AN. Form AN is ONLY for adults, 18 and older.

Can I make a suggestion, as you seem to be confusing yourself unnecessarily. Focus on the UK born childs MN1 for now as they qualify. When you are ready for the rest of the family, then post your questions. Focus on completing one step at a time instead of trying to get so much information about everything which will only confuse and overwhelm you more.

curiousja · Post by **curiousja** » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:26 am

Thank you!

curiousja · Post by **curiousja** » Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:27 pm

Hello

Please help me on the list of documents that I need to submit with my daughter’s MN1 application-

 Proof of Mr xxx (father) parental responsibility for Ms yyy.--?? (Is it a birth certificate of my daughter)

 Proof of Mrs mmmm (mother) parental responsibility for Ms xxx.--?? (Is it a birth certificate of my daughter)

 If Ms xxx told us that their parent is settled in the UK then you must provide us evidence of their settled status. This could include a BRP, a letter from the Home Office, an endorsement in their passport or another document certifying permanent residence.

-- Do I need to submit BRP and letter both and also a copy of my passport?
-- Do I need to submit BRP and passport of my wife as well currently she is on Tier-2 visa?

 A letter of consent from Ms xxx's parent(s) or legal guardian(s) The letter must: give their full names and addresses say that they agree to let you apply for a British citizenship If you have more than one parent or legal guardian, they must both sign the letter and confirm that they agree to what it says. If you only have one parent or legal guardian they must explain why the other parent is unable to consent e.g. whereabouts unknown, no contact since MM/YYYY.

-- In consent letter, there is a section for father and mother which does not have any space for the address, after filling this we don’t have to fill the guardian one. Shall we put address separately or just sign it.

 Two referee declarations for Ms xxx.

-- My first referee is BC with age more than 25, my second one (also BC) knows my daughter for about more than a year as a professional referee, is that OK?

 If Ms xxx has a passport then provide this with your application. If Ms xxx does not have a passport then you must provide another officially-issued identity document. This could include an official travel document or national identity card.

—will submit her passport

 Ms xxx's birth certificate (showing details of both parents).

- Will submit a birth certificate

 Ms xxx's current biometric residence permit (BRP).

- Will submit current BRP

 If Ms xxx told us that their parent is a British citizen then you must provide us evidence of their citizenship. This could include their British passport, a certificate of citizenship or their birth certificate.

-- not applicable

 Do I need to submit other documents such as my wife’s passport, BRP, my salary slip, bank statements, address proof related documents for my daughter? or I'm missing anything

Looking forward to hearing from you,
Thanks!

curiousja · Post by **curiousja** » Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:31 pm

Hi

I will be grateful if you could please help me with the above questions related to documents for MN1 form.
Thanks!

Post by **CULLINAN** » Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:57 pm

curiousja wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:27 pm
Hello

Please help me on the list of documents that I need to submit with my daughter’s MN1 application-

 Proof of Mr xxx (father) parental responsibility for Ms yyy.--?? (Is it a birth certificate of my daughter)

 Proof of Mrs mmmm (mother) parental responsibility for Ms xxx.--?? (Is it a birth certificate of my daughter)

 If Ms xxx told us that their parent is settled in the UK then you must provide us evidence of their settled status. This could include a BRP, a letter from the Home Office, an endorsement in their passport or another document certifying permanent residence.

-- Do I need to submit BRP and letter both and also a copy of my passport?
-- Do I need to submit BRP and passport of my wife as well currently she is on Tier-2 visa?
Submit a passport copy and BRP copy of the mother as children usually go by the mother

 A letter of consent from Ms xxx's parent(s) or legal guardian(s) The letter must: give their full names and addresses say that they agree to let you apply for a British citizenship If you have more than one parent or legal guardian, they must both sign the letter and confirm that they agree to what it says. If you only have one parent or legal guardian they must explain why the other parent is unable to consent e.g. whereabouts unknown, no contact since MM/YYYY.
Just draft a simple letter of consent and both mother and father sign. Add the contact details there

-- In consent letter, there is a section for father and mother which does not have any space for the address, after filling this we don’t have to fill the guardian one. Shall we put address separately or just sign it.

 Two referee declarations for Ms xxx.

-- My first referee is BC with age more than 25, my second one (also BC) knows my daughter for about more than a year as a professional referee, is that OK?

 If Ms xxx has a passport then provide this with your application. If Ms xxx does not have a passport then you must provide another officially-issued identity document. This could include an official travel document or national identity card.

—will submit her passport

 Ms xxx's birth certificate (showing details of both parents).

- Will submit a birth certificate

 Ms xxx's current biometric residence permit (BRP).

- Will submit current BRP

 If Ms xxx told us that their parent is a British citizen then you must provide us evidence of their citizenship. This could include their British passport, a certificate of citizenship or their birth certificate.

-- not applicable

 Do I need to submit other documents such as my wife’s passport, BRP, my salary slip, bank statements, address proof related documents for my daughter? or I'm missing anything
No. Just the mother passport and BRP for ID purpose
Also, your passport and BRP

Looking forward to hearing from you,
Thanks!

Rest all above is fine.

curiousja · Post by **curiousja** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:54 pm

Thanks,

My wife his on Tier-2 visa so it will OK to submit her passport and BRP along with my passport and ILR BRP?

I have a few more question, please help me on the following-

I will be using my email in my daughter's application so in the question-

Who does this email belong to?
(Required)
-The applicant
-An immigration adviser based in the UK
-Someone else

-- Someone else is correct?

Then I'm filling Nationality details and afterward, it asks-

Do you currently hold, or have you ever held, any other nationality or citizenship?(Required)
You must provide all the nationalities that you currently hold or have ever held.
Yes/ No

Please suggest do I need to mention Indian again (which I mentioned earlier) or I should say No here?

Does your parent or legal guardian share your address, telephone number and email?
-- As I'm using my (father's) telephone and email address in my daughter's application so I'm saying yes, later for my wife it asks again, we share common address but email and telephones can be different should I say yes here?

Are you relying on your parent's permanent residence (either as an EEA National or the family member of an EEA National) as evidence of their settled status in the United Kingdom?(Required)
Yes/No
--I guess we are from India should I say No?

Declaration
I confirm that:(Required)
I am the applicant
I am a representative of the applicant and have been authorised to act on their behalf and have discussed and confirmed the contents of this application with them

--As I'm filling this for my daughter which one I should tick from the above?

Looking forward to your reply,

Thanks!

Post by **CULLINAN** » Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:21 am

curiousja wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:54 pm
Thanks,

My wife his on Tier-2 visa so it will OK to submit her passport and BRP along with my passport and ILR BRP?
Thats fine.

I have a few more question, please help me on the following-

I will be using my email in my daughter's application so in the question-

Who does this email belong to?
(Required)
-The applicant
-An immigration adviser based in the UK
-Someone else

-- Someone else is correct? Yes. Does it ask who in the next question?

Then I'm filling Nationality details and afterward, it asks-

Do you currently hold, or have you ever held, any other nationality or citizenship?(Required)
You must provide all the nationalities that you currently hold or have ever held.
Yes/ No
No as its just asking in the sequence referring to any other nationality other than indian

Please suggest do I need to mention Indian again (which I mentioned earlier) or I should say No here?

Does your parent or legal guardian share your address, telephone number and email?
-- As I'm using my (father's) telephone and email address in my daughter's application so I'm saying yes, later for my wife it asks again, we share common address but email and telephones can be different should I say yes here?

I don’t understand this. You are using your father’s address?
Are you relying on your parent's permanent residence (either as an EEA National or the family member of an EEA National) as evidence of their settled status in the United Kingdom?(Required)
Yes/No
--I guess we are from India should I say No?
No

Declaration
I confirm that:(Required)
I am the applicant
I am a representative of the applicant and have been authorised to act on their behalf and have discussed and confirmed the contents of this application with them

--As I'm filling this for my daughter which one I should tick from the above?
Representative and it will ask your details then

Looking forward to your reply,

Thanks!

curiousja · Post by **curiousja** » Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:50 am

Thanks,

I have a few more question, please help me on the following-

I will be using my email in my daughter's application so in the question-

Who does this email belong to?
(Required)
-The applicant
-An immigration adviser based in the UK
-Someone else

-- Someone else is correct? Yes. Does it ask who in the next question?
-- No, this is the starting question, the series of questions were like this-
-Are you in the UK?-- Yes
-Email address-- My email address
-Who does this email belong to?--Some one else

Do you have an immigration adviser based in the UK?-- No
Please suggest is it correct to put someone else here?

Then I'm filling Nationality details and afterward, it asks-

Do you currently hold, or have you ever held, any other nationality or citizenship?(Required)
You must provide all the nationalities that you currently hold or have ever held.
Yes/ No
No as its just asking in the sequence referring to any other nationality other than Indian
-- Thanks

Please suggest do I need to mention Indian again (which I mentioned earlier) or I should say No here?

Does your parent or legal guardian share your address, telephone number and email?
-- As I'm using my (father's) telephone and email address in my daughter's application so I'm saying yes, later for my wife it asks again, we share common address but email and telephones can be different should I say yes here?

I don’t understand this. You are using your father’s address?
Father means my address, it comes under following questions-
Parent or legal guardian details
Which parent or legal guardian would you like to add details about?--Father
This is my biological parent
Title
Given names
Family name
Date of birth
Town of birth
Country of birth
Does your parent or legal guardian share your address, telephone number and email?

Similarly the questions are for mother, so in a following question for mother, should I say yes, yes we live together although telephone (e.g., mobile) no. or her email may vary

Declaration
I confirm that:(Required)
I am the applicant
I am a representative of the applicant and have been authorised to act on their behalf and have discussed and confirmed the contents of this application with them

--As I'm filling this for my daughter which one I should tick from the above?
Representative and it will ask your details then

-- No, this is the last section before pay and is a part of declaration, it says-

Declaration
Service Update
By sending this application, you confirm that to the best of your knowledge and belief the following is correct:
• the information relating to the application
• the supporting evidence

Also, the application will be processed according to the privacy policy and terms and conditions.
If false information is given, the application will be refused and the applicant may be banned from the UK and prosecuted.
I confirm that:(Required)
I am the applicant
I am a representative of the applicant and have been authorised to act on their behalf and have discussed and confirmed the contents of this application with them
Please suggest which one should I put??

Looking forward to your reply,

Thanks!

curiousja · Post by **curiousja** » Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:41 pm

Hi

I would be grateful if you could please help me with the above questions.

many thanks!

Post by **CULLINAN** » Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:43 pm

1) Sharing address, mobile phone, email? Say yes to both father and mother.

2) “Someone else” as you are acting on behalf of the child.

3) Representative would be correct because the child can not act for him/herself so “I am the applicant” will not be correct. I did the same for my daughter had no issues. Her MN1 was approved in 28 days.

I would suggest you to add a cover letter also mentioning that both parents consent to make MN1 application for your child. Sign, date and mention contact details.

curiousja · Post by **curiousja** » Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:05 pm

Thanks,
Please suggest in -

3) Representative would be correct because the child can not act for him/herself so “I am the applicant” will not be correct. I did the same for my daughter had no issues. Her MN1 was approved in 28 days.

It doesn't mean other agents/representative or it can be father, as I'm filling this for my daughter.

Post by **CULLINAN** » Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:09 pm

curiousja wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:05 pm
Thanks,
Please suggest in -

3) Representative would be correct because the child can not act for him/herself so “I am the applicant” will not be correct. I did the same for my daughter had no issues. Her MN1 was approved in 28 days.

It doesn't mean other agents/representative or it can be father, as I'm filling this for my daughter.

Yea the father is the representative for the child.

curiousja · Post by **curiousja** » Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:12 pm

Ok thanks!

curiousja · Post by **curiousja** » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:21 am

Hi

Regarding declaration, I'm having a doubt, as in the following link moderator suggests to tick I'm applicant for a 3-year-old. Please see below-

british-citizenship/declaration-for-mn1 ... 88735.html

I request you to please help me with this, which one I should tick? as in my case my daughter's age is between 3 and 4 years.

Thanks!

Post by **CULLINAN** » Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:32 pm

curiousja wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:21 am
Hi

Regarding declaration, I'm having a doubt, as in the following link moderator suggests to tick I'm applicant for a 3-year-old. Please see below-

british-citizenship/declaration-for-mn1 ... 88735.html

I request you to please help me with this, which one I should tick? as in my case my daughter's age is between 3 and 4 years.

Thanks!

I ticked the representative in my daughter’s case but you can follow what Zimba has quoted in the thread you mentioned.

curiousja · Post by **curiousja** » Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:44 pm

Thanks!

Sorry, the other thread (please see below) says the second option (as you mentioned in your earlier post).

british-citizenship/questions-on-mn1-form-t283336.html

I guess (3-4) year old can't act as an applicant, it has to be parents (which in this context are representative of the applicant), correct?

I will appreciate it if anyone else has a child of similar age group and filled the MN1 form, could also help me on this!

Thanks again for your help!!

curiousja · Post by **curiousja** » Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:35 pm

Hi
I have some more queries-

--Provide your postal address- xxx

Is this where you live? Yes

When did you start living at this address? yyy

Have you lived at your current address for 5 years? No

Now it asks for previous address-

--Previous address

Enter a previous address in the last 5 years, starting with the most recent. You will be able to add additional addresses after you click 'Save and continue'.

Date you lived there from

Date you lived there to

Previous address

Please suggest do I need to enter here my current postal address again or have to enter the address before living to the current address?

Thanks!

Post by **CULLINAN** » Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:54 pm

curiousja wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:44 pm
Thanks!

Sorry, the other thread (please see below) says the second option (as you mentioned in your earlier post).

british-citizenship/questions-on-mn1-form-t283336.html

I guess (3-4) year old can't act as an applicant, it has to be parents (which in this context are representative of the applicant), correct?

I will appreciate it if anyone else has a child of similar age group and filled the MN1 form, could also help me on this!

Thanks again for your help!!

What more confirmation you need? You have been advised and have the relevant threads. Decision is yours now. You are overthinking this.

curiousja · Post by **curiousja** » Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:56 pm

Thanks!

curiousja · Post by **curiousja** » Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:57 pm

Hi
Please help me with the question related to previous addresses.

Thanks!

Post by **CULLINAN** » Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:39 pm

Your child is 3/4 so you really cant give 5 years address. Just tick “Yes” to 5 years living at address question. HO knows how old your child is.

curiousja · Post by **curiousja** » Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:52 pm

Thanks,
How about if I say no and give about 4 years of address?

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