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To register a child as British citizen - MN1 online application form

Post by Narmeen » Sun Oct 23, 2022 1:11 am

Hi
I'm filling out MN1 form online for my 2 children (9 years and 2 years old) born in the UK to register them as British citizens (I have recently got ILR based on 10 years long residence). I have 2 questions, please.

1.The first thing on the application says: ''Once the question for the main applicant have been completed, you will be able to add additional applicants to this application, such as a family member of dependant''. I assume my first child is the applicant here, not me (the parent), am I right? How can I add both of my children on one application? Am I supposed to pay once for both of them as it is one application, or am I going to be charged twice? I was not expecting this, I was planning to apply for my 1st child and then for my 2nd one.
2. After choosing the child was born in the UK and the parent is settled in the UK options, it asks ''Are either of the parents of the child applying for naturalisation as a British citizen on an AN form?''. I have just got ILR and I need to wait 12 months to apply for citizenship. Shall I say Yes or No to this question? What's an AN form? When I choose No, it goes to the next question. However, when I choose Yes, then an option comes up saying ''I would like my child to be registered as a British citizen even if my own application for British Citizenship is refused''.

Many thanks for your help.

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Re: To register a child as British citizen - MN1 online application form

Post by contorted_svy » Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:24 am

Narmeen wrote:
Sun Oct 23, 2022 1:11 am
Hi
I'm filling out MN1 form online for my 2 children (9 years and 2 years old) born in the UK to register them as British citizens (I have recently got ILR based on 10 years long residence). I have 2 questions, please.

1.The first thing on the application says: ''Once the question for the main applicant have been completed, you will be able to add additional applicants to this application, such as a family member of dependant''. I assume my first child is the applicant here, not me (the parent), am I right? How can I add both of my children on one application? Am I supposed to pay once for both of them as it is one application, or am I going to be charged twice? I was not expecting this, I was planning to apply for my 1st child and then for my 2nd one. Yes, your child is the applicant. You don't have to apply for both children n the same form, however, if you do, you will be charged twice. The charge depends on how many people apply, not on the number of applications.
2. After choosing the child was born in the UK and the parent is settled in the UK options, it asks ''Are either of the parents of the child applying for naturalisation as a British citizen on an AN form?''. I have just got ILR and I need to wait 12 months to apply for citizenship. Shall I say Yes or No to this question? What's an AN form? When I choose No, it goes to the next question. However, when I choose Yes, then an option comes up saying ''I would like my child to be registered as a British citizen even if my own application for British Citizenship is refused''. You should answer No and then Yes, the form is not always 100% accurate[highlight]

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Re: To register a child as British citizen - MN1 online application form

Post by alterhase58 » Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:55 am

The fees are payable for each applicant - applications are individual, there are no group or family type applications.
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Post by Narmeen » Tue Oct 25, 2022 10:43 pm

Thank you so much for your replies.

On the MN1 online form, it asks: ''Which parent or legal guardian would you like to add details about?''. My child is applying to be registered as a British citizen based on me (the mother) having ILR. My child's biological father, who is my ex-husband, is having leave to remain (not indefinite) based on that he is having a child living in the UK for more than 7 years. He is having parental responsibility and his name is on our child's birth certificate. We were married when our daughter was born 9 years ago. We got divorced 5 years later.

My question is:
First: Should I also provide my ex-husband's details on the form as well? I think that he also needs to give consent for our daughter to be registered as a British citizen, doesn't he? If so, I need to give his details. He is aware and happy about this application.

Second: I gave his details on the form (not submitted yet). In the list of documents, it asks for
a) proof of the Father's parental responsibility for the child.
b) proof of the Mother's parental responsibility for the child. Proof of the mother's parental responsibility can include:
A copy of the birth certificate
A parental responsibility order, care order, adoption order or special guardianship order.

My ex-husband and I don't have any formal order. After the divorce, we both agreed that we put the interest of our child first and we let each other play a vital and important role in our child's life. So, my ex-husband left home and lives in a different address, but he is having direct and regular contact with our child. We agreed that the father can see her 3 times a week and whenever needed, if the child has appointments, going to visit friends or birthday parties , etc. I don't drive and Dad is happy to help whenever needed or whenever our daughter wants to see him.

So to show Dad's parental responsibility, should a letter signed by me explaining as I did it above, be ok? We have no formal arrangements, but none of us ever argued about the role we play in our child's life as we both act responsibly towards her and her needs to keep her safe and happy.

Dad always took our daughter to her regular dentist appointments every 6 months. Would a letter from her dentist be sufficient? + a letter from me or both of us? + some photos taken with our daughter in them?

Is there anything else we should think of, please?

My apologies for the long post. Many thanks for your help.

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Re: To register a child as British citizen - MN1 online application form

Post by Ticktack » Wed Oct 26, 2022 10:19 am

Narmeen wrote:
Tue Oct 25, 2022 10:43 pm
Thank you so much for your replies.

On the MN1 online form, it asks: ''Which parent or legal guardian would you like to add details about?''. My child is applying to be registered as a British citizen based on me (the mother) having ILR. My child's biological father, who is my ex-husband, is having leave to remain (not indefinite) based on that he is having a child living in the UK for more than 7 years. He is having parental responsibility and his name is on our child's birth certificate. We were married when our daughter was born 9 years ago. We got divorced 5 years later.

My question is:
First: Should I also provide my ex-husband's details on the form as well? I think that he also needs to give consent for our daughter to be registered as a British citizen, doesn't he? If so, I need to give his details. He is aware and happy about this application.If the form asks for fathers details, then you need to put it down irrespective of your marital status.

Second: I gave his details on the form (not submitted yet). In the list of documents, it asks for
a) proof of the Father's parental responsibility for the child.
b) proof of the Mother's parental responsibility for the child. Proof of the mother's parental responsibility can include:
A copy of the birth certificate Birth certificate would suffice. No need to overcomplicate things by ironing out all your laundry. Birth certificate would have father and mothers name on it.
A parental responsibility order, care order, adoption order or special guardianship order.

My ex-husband and I don't have any formal order. After the divorce, we both agreed that we put the interest of our child first and we let each other play a vital and important role in our child's life. So, my ex-husband left home and lives in a different address, but he is having direct and regular contact with our child. We agreed that the father can see her 3 times a week and whenever needed, if the child has appointments, going to visit friends or birthday parties , etc. I don't drive and Dad is happy to help whenever needed or whenever our daughter wants to see him.

So to show Dad's parental responsibility, should a letter signed by me explaining as I did it above, be ok? We have no formal arrangements, but none of us ever argued about the role we play in our child's life as we both act responsibly towards her and her needs to keep her safe and happy.

Dad always took our daughter to her regular dentist appointments every 6 months. Would a letter from her dentist be sufficient? + a letter from me or both of us? + some photos taken with our daughter in them?

Is there anything else we should think of, please?

My apologies for the long post. Many thanks for your help.
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Re: To register a child as British citizen - MN1 online application form

Post by Narmeen » Tue Nov 29, 2022 11:32 pm

First of all, many thanks for your reply. I would really appreciate it.

May I ask some questions about my children's referees, please? Many thanks.

1. The headteacher signed the referee form for my daughter (9 years old) and gave me her full name, home address, personal email and telephone number and her date of birth. However, she said she prefers not to provide her passport number. Instead, I would write on the application form (Will be provided upon request) something like that. And if the Home Office decided to contact the headteacher via email, she will give it to them. Does this cause any problem or it sounds normal?

2. My son (2 years old) who attends a nursery, his nursery's deputy manager signed the form who has been my son's key person as well. She gave me her name, date of birth, and same as above, she was not happy to provide passport number and said she will directly give it to the Home Office if they request her to do so through email. She also gave me the address, email and telephone number of the nursery rather than her personal contact details. Does this sound ok?

3. The second referee for both of my children is my colleague (we have been working together at the same school as teaching assistants for more than 6 years). She knows me and my children personally. What shall I put when replying to the question on the application form: How does the referee know the applicant?

Thank you so much again for your support. You're doing an amazing job!

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Post by Ticktack » Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:09 am

Narmeen wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 11:32 pm
First of all, many thanks for your reply. I would really appreciate it.

May I ask some questions about my children's referees, please? Many thanks.

1. The headteacher signed the referee form for my daughter (9 years old) and gave me her full name, home address, personal email and telephone number and her date of birth. However, she said she prefers not to provide her passport number. Instead, I would write on the application form (Will be provided upon request) something like that. And if the Home Office decided to contact the headteacher via email, she will give it to them. Does this cause any problem or it sounds normal? If you have a family friend that fits the criteria, you can use them. Most people like teachers find it hard to give out extremely personal details. You might be asked to provide another referee that is willing to give you all details and you might be lucky that the HO requests the passport number directly from the referee. In my humble opinion, the HO hardly contacts referees. So that might be a good thing. But without the passport number, there's no way to confirm their citizenship. Not like they can't in other ways, but you might be giving them too many hoops to jump.

2. My son (2 years old) who attends a nursery, his nursery's deputy manager signed the form who has been my son's key person as well. She gave me her name, date of birth, and same as above, she was not happy to provide passport number and said she will directly give it to the Home Office if they request her to do so through email. She also gave me the address, email and telephone number of the nursery rather than her personal contact details. Does this sound ok?

3. The second referee for both of my children is my colleague (we have been working together at the same school as teaching assistants for more than 6 years). She knows me and my children personally. What shall I put when replying to the question on the application form: How does the referee know the applicant? These similar questions are answered almost daily on this forum. The HO isn't fussy about kids. You can use your personal friends and it would still scale through. Family friend would suffice, as how you know the kids.

Thank you so much again for your support. You're doing an amazing job!
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Post by Narmeen » Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:26 pm

Thank you so much indeed for your reply.

I have 2 more questions, please. I would really appreciate your reply.

1. When I am trying to submit the application, in the Declaration section, I have to choose from one of these options. I do not have a solicitor to represent me, I am not the applicant, my children are the applicants and I am applying for them (aged 9 and 2) as their mother. Which one is the correct option, please?

I confirm that:

O I am an applicant and I am authorised to act on behalf of the other applicants and have discussed and confirmed the contents of this application with them

O I am a representative of the applicants and have been authorised to act on their behalf and have discussed and confirmed the contents of this application with them

2. There is a consent form to sign, which consists of 3 pages: First is the parents page to give consent (mother and father of one page altogether). Second is the Gurdian's consent. Third is Child’s consent where they are making an application on their own. I believe that I just need to print out, fill in and upload the first page as the other 2 pages are irrelevant for my children's application. Am I right?

Thank you so much again.

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Re: To register a child as British citizen - MN1 online application form

Post by Ticktack » Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:04 am

Narmeen wrote:
Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:26 pm
Thank you so much indeed for your reply.

I have 2 more questions, please. I would really appreciate your reply.

1. When I am trying to submit the application, in the Declaration section, I have to choose from one of these options. I do not have a solicitor to represent me, I am not the applicant, my children are the applicants and I am applying for them (aged 9 and 2) as their mother. Which one is the correct option, please?

I confirm that:

O I am an applicant and I am authorised to act on behalf of the other applicants and have discussed and confirmed the contents of this application with them

O I am a representative of the applicants and have been authorised to act on their behalf and have discussed and confirmed the contents of this application with them

2. There is a consent form to sign, which consists of 3 pages: First is the parents page to give consent (mother and father of one page altogether). Second is the Gurdian's consent. Third is Child’s consent where they are making an application on their own. I believe that I just need to print out, fill in and upload the first page as the other 2 pages are irrelevant for my children's application. Am I right? Correct

Thank you so much again.
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Post by Narmeen » Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:14 pm

I would really appreciate your reply.

I have now submitted the application and I want to upload the documents for my 2 children's applications. In respect to the letter of consent from parents, the form has been provided didn't ask for addresses. My ex-husband and I have signed it for our daughter's application. It is like below:


Father’s consent
I _________________________________ (name of father) consent to this
application for the registration of ____________________________ (name of child)
as a British citizen.
signed

Mother’s consent
I _________________________________ (name of mother) consent to this
application for the registration of ____________________________ (name of child)
as a British citizen.
signed

However, on the checklist, it is different - it says:
letter of consent from xxxxxx parent(s) or legal guardian(s)
The letter must:
give their full names and addresses
say that they agree to let you apply for a British citizenship
If you have more than one parent or legal guardian, they must both sign the letter and confirm that they agree to what it says.
Am I supposed to write another letter to add addresses and other information, please? Thank you.


For my second child, it's only me that have parental responsibility and only I am named on my child's birth certificate. I signed the mother's section and in the section asks: ''If you only have one parent or legal guardian they must explain why the other parent is unable to consent e.g. whereabouts unknown, no contact since MM/YYYY''. I put the information '' Only mother is having parental responsibility and only mother has named on the applicant's birth certificate''. is this sufficient? Many thanks

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Post by Narmeen » Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:08 am

In the space provided, I wrote, but not submitted yet:
''I am a single parent and only I, as a mother, have parental responsibility and only I am named on the applicant's birth certificate''. is this sufficient, please? Thank you very much for helping this worried mum here.

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