Deportation order...

Hello everyone,

Forgive me if I posted in the wrong section...

My son (19) was born in the UK with both USA/UK nationalities (two passports). My son has gotten into trouble with the law and may have to serve time.

My question is, can my son renounce his UK nationality to become a non-British citizen and be deported to the United States of America by deportation order? As I understand, a deportation order generally applied to a non-British citizen after serve at least 12 months of their sentence?

Thank you for your understanding

Why not simply leave if he chooses to?

CR001 wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 08, 2024 10:27 am

Why not simply leave if he chooses to?

Then he'll become an international fugitive? If the offence is serious enough to warrant jail term, just simply leaving doesn't wash his sins away.

US jails are definitely much worse that UK jails.

Ticktack wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 08, 2024 11:56 am

CR001 wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 08, 2024 10:27 am

Why not simply leave if he chooses to?

Then he'll become an international fugitive? If the offence is serious enough to warrant jail term, just simply leaving doesn't wash his sins away.

US jails are definitely much worse that UK jails.

I meant AFTER the custodial period if relevant!

CR001 wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 08, 2024 11:57 am

Ticktack wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 08, 2024 11:56 am

CR001 wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 08, 2024 10:27 am

Why not simply leave if he chooses to?

Then he'll become an international fugitive? If the offence is serious enough to warrant jail term, just simply leaving doesn't wash his sins away.

US jails are definitely much worse that UK jails.

I meant AFTER the custodial period if relevant!

From what I read, OP is looking for a way to reduce the custodial sentence. So that son can only serve 12 months.

Thanks Ticktack... that is exactly what I mean. If someone was born in the UK can that person renounce their British citizen? That person technically becomes a non-British citizen? Then, the deportation order would kicks in after serving a minimum of 12 months of custodial sentence?

What I am asking is, is the deportation order applied to a foreigner (non-British citizen) as well as a British citizen who renounce their UK nationality?

Again, thank you for your understanding

welshdragon wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 08, 2024 12:41 pm

Thanks Ticktack... that is exactly what I mean. If someone was born in the UK can that person renounce their British citizen? That person technically becomes a non-British citizen? Then, the deportation order would kicks in after serving a minimum of 12 months of custodial sentence?

What I am asking is, is the deportation order applied to a foreigner (non-British citizen) as well as a British citizen who renounce their UK nationality?

Again, thank you for your understanding

Technically, being born in the UK doesn't stop you from renouncing British citizenship. However, you have to apply for it, and it "could" be granted. Also, you have to consider this move carefully before making that decision.

But there's no guarantee that you'd get the effect that you're looking for from the Justice system. I'm no legal person, but it could be argued that when he committed the crime, he was British. So what you're looking for could be thrown out, that's if it's even possible.

What comes to my mind is a case a few years ago where a transgender raped 2 females whilst she was still HE.
They had a problem sending her to a female jail as the crime happened whilst she was he. Not sure how that panned out eventually.

Thanks for your reply, Ticktack... makes a lot of sense.

As for the transgender issue, that was a coward move to hide behind being a so called "female".