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Ecctis Language Qualification for Degree from USA

Post by waiting4ilr2022 » Sat Apr 13, 2024 1:14 pm

We have been reached out to by Home Office to provide "proof of Language" for my university diploma; which is from the USA.

For our ILR application, 2 years ago, we had applied to Ecctis and we were only given the "Academic Qualification" document ; which was then sufficient for approval - I believe due to the degree being taught in the US was sufficient proof for English language requirement.

We have submitted the same document for the citizenship application however now being asked to provide proof of language as well.

Should we ask Ecctis or the University itself to provide further proof; or just respond back to HO saying this shouldn't be required?

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Re: Ecctis Language Qualification for Degree from USA

Post by contorted_svy » Sat Apr 13, 2024 2:42 pm

You need to supply the documentation for Ecctis as your degree was taught in English but not in the UK, however this could take a certain amount of time. I would advise considering a SELT B1 language exam at a local accepted centre and supply that to provide a quicker response.
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Re: Ecctis Language Qualification for Degree from USA

Post by waiting4ilr2022 » Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:43 pm

Sorry I wasn't clear in the earlier post.

In 2022, for ILR, we had provided Academic Qualification Level Statement of the US diploma, and that was sufficient enough to prove the Degree and the English language.

In 2024, we provided the very same document, but being asked about the English language proof. I have checked the Guidance, and it clearly states that if the Degree is obtained from a majority English speaking country, then the language proof is not amongst the requirements.

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Re: Ecctis Language Qualification for Degree from USA

Post by contorted_svy » Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:48 pm

ILR is a completely different process under immigration law. Naturalisation is handled under nationality rules, so the two can't be compared.

Reading the guidance https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... bookmark22
9.2 Knowledge of Language requirement
You also need to have sufficient speaking and listening knowledge of English, Welsh or Scottish Gaelic. This is a separate requirement to the Life in the UK requirement, and you must meet both requirements.

You can satisfy the knowledge of language requirement if you have any one of the following:

a Home Office approved qualification in English at B1 CEFR or higher, from the Secure English Language Test list. Only English language qualifications on this list will be accepted as evidence that you have met the requirement to hold a B1 level English qualification.
You must ensure that you state the test number in your application. For tests taken on or after 6 April 2015, you do not need to supply any physical evidence of the English language test. You must provide the unique reference number (URN) on your application form

The test must be taken at a Home Office approved test centre. Test results are only valid for two years from the date the test is taken. Once the validity of your test expires after two years, the qualification cannot be relied upon to support your application to naturalise.

If you successfully made an application for indefinite leave to remain (ILR) on the basis of a B1 level qualification you would meet the English language requirement for naturalisation and do not have to pass another test. This includes where you satisfied the requirement for ILR because you had already met the B1 level qualification for entry clearance or leave to remain.

a UK degree certificate:
You will not be required to show a formal speaking and listening qualification if you have a UK academic qualification which is equivalent to a UK Bachelor’s or

Master’s degree or PHD, which was taught in English. If you have a UK degree you must provide your degree certificate.

Please note that you still need to pass the Life in the UK test to demonstrate your knowledge of life in the UK.

a degree certificate that was taught or researched in a majority English speaking country and:
an Academic Qualification Level Statement (AQUALS) from Ecctis (formerly UK NARIC) confirming the qualification is equivalent to a UK qualification
A degree certificate that was taught or researched in a non-majority English speaking country and both of the following:
an Academic Qualification Level Statement (AQUALS) from Ecctis (formerly UK NARIC) confirming the qualification is equivalent to a UK qualification
an English Language Proficiency Statement (ELPS) from Ecctis (formerly UK NARIC) showing that your degree was taught in English
A postgraduate diploma, or a graduate diploma from a UK university. Postgraduate diplomas are usually abbreviated as PGDip, PG Dip, PgD, PgDip. Examples would be:
postgraduate diploma in legal practice
graduate diploma in law
postgraduate diploma in education
postgraduate diploma in teaching
A postgraduate diploma, or graduate diploma from a university outside the UK, must have Ecctis (formerly UK NARIC) confirmation showing it is comparable to a UK degree, and was taught in English. Professional diplomas from either inside or outside the UK, which do not require an undergraduate degree as an entry requirement, (such as accountancy, marketing, hotel management, cosmetic science and food hygiene) cannot be accepted.
It specifically refers to a UK degree - not a degree taught in a majority English-speaking country. You need to obtain the correct document from Ecctis that certifies this degree proves your level of English or take the English language exam as I advised above.
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Re: Ecctis Language Qualification for Degree from USA

Post by waiting4ilr2022 » Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:20 am

I have booked the B1 Speaking&Listening exam for tomorrow, just to make things quicker.

However, my point is, we have exactly fulfilled the below requirements:

"a degree certificate that was taught or researched in a majority English speaking country and:
an Academic Qualification Level Statement (AQUALS) from Ecctis (formerly UK NARIC) confirming the qualification is equivalent to a UK qualification" i.e. AQUALS only by itself from Ecctis is sufficient for a US degree, no mention of ELPS.

Additionally, when we were obtaining AQUALS from Ecctis back in 2022, we were not provided a separate ELPS - I believe it is again due to degree being from the US. - or do they provide ELPS for US degrees too?

In any case, I didn't want to risk the application for not paying £150 extra for the exam, but still it didn't seem right.

Sorry for taking too much of your / readers' time, however it might happen to other applicants with US degrees as well, hence the post.

Thank you for your time.

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Re: Ecctis Language Qualification for Degree from USA

Post by contorted_svy » Sun Apr 14, 2024 2:48 pm

I see what you are saying now. Are you absolutely sure you uploaded all the evidence as required? What exactly did he email say?
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