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Dependent on Ancestry Visa

Post by Cman » Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:40 am

Hi,

I am looking to get some clarification around what is required in order to get a visa to stay longer.

Some background info first: My partner (in 3rd year of 5 year ancestry visa, her first ancestry visa) and I (on last 6 months of Tier 5 youth mobility) have been together for coming up to a year now, we met over hear and started dating when we were housemates. We have lived together for over a year now and are looking to get married in December/January.

Now we want to stay together in the UK and beyond, from what I can tell I can get on her visa as a dependent if we are married, the form I would need to fill in would be the FLR(IR) and I would need to fill this out as the applicant, this is what I can tell from this thread

I want to confirm this is the correct path in this situation?
I can apply for this from within the UK?
Would I need to get all the same documents she had to show for her application? e.g. her grandfathers original birth certificate which could be tricky as this is in NZ
What kind of evidence would I need to show of our relationship? From what I can tell if the marriage is recent (which it will be) then there will be extra scrutiny to see if it is subsisting, any idea what amount of proof is required? We can include holiday pics, friend/family testimony, bills etc over the past year.
We will not be having a large wedding in the UK as we want to do this with all our friends and family back in NZ in a couple years time so it will be a small affair with friends and what family we have over here - I understand this could be a red flag as 'Significant family members missing from wedding reception'
I also want to confirm that the financials are alright, we both work full time and combined we earn almost £60,000 a year with no children/dependents, would I still need to have a level of savings or would our continued employment be enough?
The flat we rent is through her uncle as he leases it as part of the lease on the shop below which my partner works for. Will this cover the accommodation?
Would their be different evidence required for her pay as she is working for a company owned by a family member?

Thanks in advance for any help

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Re: Dependent on Ancestry Visa

Post by Cman » Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:57 am

Hi Guys,

I have just noticed that the FLR(IR) form is now online rather than a paper and mail in copy, does this make much of a difference to sending in my documents? Or will I now take them to a appointment like other online applications seem to have to do?

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Re: Dependent on Ancestry Visa

Post by CR001 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:59 am

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Youth Mobility to FLR(IR)-Joining my spouse

Post by Cman » Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:04 pm

Hi All,

I am getting to the end of my Tier 5 Youth Mobility visa and I am planning on applying as a dependant of my spouse. I plan to do the fast tracked service at the end of March when my current visa runs out April 20 so timing might be tight - I am leaving it this late as my spouse and I had planned a trip back home to NZ at the start of March for two weeks - essentially I will have all my forms filled in online and my documents in a row then submit as soon as I am back in the UK.

My question is if I do apply end of March and I have to wait beyond the 20th April to get a decision will I still be allowed to remain in the UK pending this decision? Will I also be allowed to continue working during this period?

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Re: Youth Mobility to FLR(IR)-Joining my spouse

Post by CR001 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:30 pm

Yes, your existing visa conditions continue while you have an application pending decision with HO, provided you applied BEFORE your visa expires.

Why don't you apply now??
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Re: Youth Mobility to FLR(IR)-Joining my spouse

Post by Cman » Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:46 pm

Thanks for the quick response CR001 - you have confirmed what I thought was correct.

As for why we are not applying now, our wedding is next week so the time between that and our trip to NZ is a bit too small as I understand the HO will regard your application as void if you leave the country after you apply and before a decision is made.

Another quick question as well - When I save my application while filling it out that does not count as 'Applying' right? As in the application only becomes valid (and I cannot leave the country) once I hit the final submit button and pay my fees etc?

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Re: Youth Mobility to FLR(IR)-Joining my spouse

Post by CR001 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:54 pm

Cman wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:46 pm
Another quick question as well - When I save my application while filling it out that does not count as 'Applying' right? As in the application only becomes valid (and I cannot leave the country) once I hit the final submit button and pay my fees etc?
You only 'apply' once you submit and pay. The 'not applied/submitted' application will automatically delete after 10 weeks from date you started it.
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FLR(IR) Online Form Help

Post by Cman » Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:48 pm

Hi,

I am in the process of completing my application online for FLR(IR) Category of Leave Dependant of a person who has limited leave to enter or remain in the UK - I am joining my spouse who is on her ancestry visa (2 years left)

When I get to the section asking for documents and ticking them off there appears to be a bug of some sort where it is asking 'Evidence of *My Wifes* relationship with *My wife*. For example a marriage or civil partnership certificate or proof of living together for 2 years or longer.'

This is clearly a mistake on the websites part and I have proof where it asked for the correct details from about a month ago when I started the application. I tried restarting the thing from scratch and get the same result.

I want to know if I proceed with this application and attach the documents as stated before where the correct names were coming up will I be penalized for this or rejected? I can also provide the PDF of the previous state of the application where it has the correct names.

I know this is a bit out of the box but I tried contacting UK Visas and their tech team and neither were helpful at all. I just dont want to be paying the £1800 for the application for it to be turned down due to a technical error.

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Re: FLR(IR) Online Form Help

Post by CR001 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 3:18 pm

We cannot see the online forms (we would have to register multiple times to see ALL the different forms) so unclear where exactly this is appear, i.e. the checklist at the end for example or elsewhere.
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Re: FLR(IR) Online Form Help

Post by Cman » Tue Apr 02, 2019 3:30 pm

It is in the document list at the end, screenshot of what it currently shows:
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and what it used to show:
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Hopefully the screenshots worked :?

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Re: FLR(IR) Online Form Help

Post by CR001 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 3:34 pm

No, can't see the attachments.
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Re: FLR(IR) Online Form Help

Post by Cman » Tue Apr 02, 2019 3:37 pm

Currently shows:
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used to show:
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Hopefully that works now

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Re: FLR(IR) Online Form Help

Post by CR001 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 3:45 pm

If you have completed the form with yourself as the main applicant, which presumably you are, then it is likely simply a glitch in the system.
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Re: FLR(IR) Online Form Help

Post by Cman » Tue Apr 02, 2019 3:53 pm

Awesome thanks, I thought that would be the case.

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Re: FLR(IR) Online Form Help

Post by Cman » Tue Apr 02, 2019 5:24 pm

Sorry to be a pain but another question regarding the documents - would I also need to take physical copies of the originals to the interview? Or would the uploaded ones be fine?

I know I need to take my Passport/BRP but im thinking do I need to take months of bank statements, payslips and letters etc as well to the appointment.

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Re: FLR(IR) Online Form Help

Post by CR001 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:20 pm

Cman wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2019 5:24 pm
Sorry to be a pain but another question regarding the documents - would I also need to take physical copies of the originals to the interview? Or would the uploaded ones be fine?

I know I need to take my Passport/BRP but im thinking do I need to take months of bank statements, payslips and letters etc as well to the appointment.

Thanks!
Copies not need.

The ukcvas appointment is not an interview.
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Re: FLR(IR) Online Form Help

Post by Cman » Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:34 am

Hi All,

Just thought I would post a follow up on my experience to help anyone else going through this process - I know it can be quite stressful at times!

I filled in the FLR(IR) form online with myself as the main applicant - all pretty straightforward questions and easy to follow. When it got to the documents to provide there was a glitch in the system where it said I needed to show my wifes financials, and her relationship with herself etc but I just ignored that and took it as meaning my own stuff.

It goes through the process of paying the IHS fee where you get redirected to another site and confirm your details, I was charged £1000 although I am only getting a visa for 2 years - I believe I can get a partial refund for the extra money. I then paid my actual application fee - this was £1052 for standard service (up to 6 months from biometrics) I chose to pay an extra £800 for super priority service (the only other option, takes 1 day from biometrics).

Once this was all done I submitted the application and had to create a account on the UKVCAS site to book a appointment for biometrics/document checking. A little confusion here as there are all kinds of extra services you can get depending on the location you choose. I chose the Croydon point as there was the option of no extra charges, I was able to book the appointment for within 2 weeks of the date I was looking (there were earlier appointments that you can pay extra for).

I then uploaded all of my supporting evidence this included:
-6 months payslips for me/wife
-6 months bank statements for our joint account
-wedding certificate
-a few pictures of us over the last 2 years (may not be necessary but it was a recent marriage so thought this wouldnt hurt)
-Rent receipts from landlord for 6 months
-Letter from landlord stating he is fine to continue renting to us and that we are on a verbal tenancy agreement along with the amount we pay.
-Letter from my employer confirming employment (From HR within the last 30 days)
-Copy of my contract for work
-Various documents detailing stock purchase plan through work (extra income basically)
-Home office consent forms for me and wife (this is provided at the end of the application process)
-Passports/BRPs for Wife and I
-Council Tax bills
-P60 for myself
-Copy of email for confirmation of IHS payment

I uploaded all these documents and double/triple checked they were still in their system before going to my appointment.

Had my appointment booked for 10.30am, got to the building just before 10am and there was a line going out the door, took about 15-20mins to get through security. Only I was allowed in the building as the applicant, my wife was not allowed in (doesnt matter that I was joining her visa, its a health and safety thing for overcrowding). Showed my booking confirmation email and was directed to one of the 3 floors. Took a number and waited with about 40 or so other people on my floor. Done biometrics then had to wait a bit longer to get my documents checked which went through fine. I had physical copies of almost everything I uploaded in case something went wrong and I needed to show them.

Small technical glitch at the end but I was assured this was normal, was told that was it and a decision would be emailed to me in the next 24hrs. Went home and stressed a little bit but that was all for nothing, got up the next morning and had a email from them confirming that my application was approved and that I will receive my BRP in the mail. Happy days!

The people at the UKVCAS office were all really lovely and polite made things easier. Also big thanks to CR001 for your answers to all my questions it really helped a lot with the whole application process.

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Re: FLR(IR) Online Form Help

Post by CR001 » Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:42 am

Excellent, congrats :D
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