Foreign Birth Registration

Elousseili wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 09, 2024 8:26 pm

Hi
I applied for my son for a foreign birth registration about 9 month ago but now they ask me by email to send a original document to a address that doesn’t have post code as the dhl says
Does anyone knows or have the same issue
Or have any phone number i can call to obtain the missing information
The address is

Department of Foreign Affairs | FOREIGN BIRTH REGISTRATION SECTION
Foreign Births Registration Returns Section
PO Box 13003
Balbriggan
Co Dublin
Ireland

Elousseili wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:47 pm

I’m in the uk
The first time I applied it was through Irish embassy in london
I tried googling to get the post code but no luck

meself2 wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:51 pm

Elousseili wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:47 pm

I’m in the uk
The first time I applied it was through Irish embassy in london
I tried googling to get the post code but no luck

Do you not want to use Royal Mail then?
Search for stories of people sending documetns from teh UK on this forum.

meself2 wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:51 pm

Elousseili wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:47 pm

I’m in the uk
The first time I applied it was through Irish embassy in london
I tried googling to get the post code but no luck

Do you not want to use Royal Mail then?
Search for stories of people sending documetns from teh UK on this forum.

Mandino55 wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:08 pm

Hi all,

I am applying to have my daughter registered on the FBR and there are a few things I'd like clarification on that I hope this forum can help me with. 

"Original civil birth certificate (showing parental details)". 
I have a birth certificate for my daughter that lists both my name and my wife's name but doesn't go into details like when either of us were born or where. Will this style of birth certificate suffice?

"Letter from school, family doctor or other relevant source on headed paper which includes the minor’s address".
What exactly is the nature of this letter and what should its contents be? Should it be written by the same person who is witnessing the application or can it be someone else who works in a recognized profession?

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

Best,
M

jgclancy wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 10, 2024 6:26 pm

Mandino55 wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:08 pm

Hi all,

I am applying to have my daughter registered on the FBR and there are a few things I'd like clarification on that I hope this forum can help me with. 

"Original civil birth certificate (showing parental details)". 
I have a birth certificate for my daughter that lists both my name and my wife's name but doesn't go into details like when either of us were born or where. Will this style of birth certificate suffice?

"Letter from school, family doctor or other relevant source on headed paper which includes the minor’s address".
What exactly is the nature of this letter and what should its contents be? Should it be written by the same person who is witnessing the application or can it be someone else who works in a recognized profession?

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

Best,
M

If the issuing country has a long form birth certificate that has more information I'd order that version. You could send in the certificate you have since it has parents names. BUT -they may ask for a better version down the road which will increase the processing time. You could send off application with the certificate you have now and then send newer version later but before they start reviewing it all. If you do this make sure to follow up and check that it is added to the original application.

The letter basically should state that they know the applicant and how. How they are a valid qualified to write the letter (i.e. -I am a doctor....)
I'd have the letter include parents/guardians name(s) as well. Make sure it has the child's address. Make sure application # is on letter too.

Good luck

jgclancy

Mandino55 wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:42 pm

jgclancy wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 10, 2024 6:26 pm

Mandino55 wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:08 pm

Hi all,

I am applying to have my daughter registered on the FBR and there are a few things I'd like clarification on that I hope this forum can help me with. 

"Original civil birth certificate (showing parental details)". 
I have a birth certificate for my daughter that lists both my name and my wife's name but doesn't go into details like when either of us were born or where. Will this style of birth certificate suffice?

"Letter from school, family doctor or other relevant source on headed paper which includes the minor’s address".
What exactly is the nature of this letter and what should its contents be? Should it be written by the same person who is witnessing the application or can it be someone else who works in a recognized profession?

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

Best,
M

If the issuing country has a long form birth certificate that has more information I'd order that version. You could send in the certificate you have since it has parents names. BUT -they may ask for a better version down the road which will increase the processing time. You could send off application with the certificate you have now and then send newer version later but before they start reviewing it all. If you do this make sure to follow up and check that it is added to the original application.

The letter basically should state that they know the applicant and how. How they are a valid qualified to write the letter (i.e. -I am a doctor....)
I'd have the letter include parents/guardians name(s) as well. Make sure it has the child's address. Make sure application # is on letter too.

Good luck

jgclancy

Thanks for the feedback!

And your interpretation is that the letter should be from the same person that will be witnessing the application or that they can be seperate people?

Thanks!

jgclancy wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 10, 2024 11:35 pm

Mandino55 wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:42 pm

jgclancy wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 10, 2024 6:26 pm

Mandino55 wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:08 pm

Hi all,

I am applying to have my daughter registered on the FBR and there are a few things I'd like clarification on that I hope this forum can help me with. 

"Original civil birth certificate (showing parental details)". 
I have a birth certificate for my daughter that lists both my name and my wife's name but doesn't go into details like when either of us were born or where. Will this style of birth certificate suffice?

"Letter from school, family doctor or other relevant source on headed paper which includes the minor’s address".
What exactly is the nature of this letter and what should its contents be? Should it be written by the same person who is witnessing the application or can it be someone else who works in a recognized profession?

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

Best,
M

If the issuing country has a long form birth certificate that has more information I'd order that version. You could send in the certificate you have since it has parents names. BUT -they may ask for a better version down the road which will increase the processing time. You could send off application with the certificate you have now and then send newer version later but before they start reviewing it all. If you do this make sure to follow up and check that it is added to the original application.

The letter basically should state that they know the applicant and how. How they are a valid qualified to write the letter (i.e. -I am a doctor....)
I'd have the letter include parents/guardians name(s) as well. Make sure it has the child's address. Make sure application # is on letter too.

Good luck

jgclancy

Thanks for the feedback!

And your interpretation is that the letter should be from the same person that will be witnessing the application or that they can be seperate people?

Thanks!

They can be separate people. The letter is independent of the application witness .Hence, the different list of who makes the letter compared to witness list.

jgclancy

brianfalconerglasgow wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 12, 2024 5:06 pm

OK just got my "Congratulations" email. The whole process took 14 months and my certificate is in the post. I now need to order a passport online, is there a step by step process on here how to make sure I don't mess it up at this stage. I am living in Scotland and my grandfather was born in Dublin.

cheers

jgclancy wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 12, 2024 5:54 pm

brianfalconerglasgow wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 12, 2024 5:06 pm

OK just got my "Congratulations" email. The whole process took 14 months and my certificate is in the post. I now need to order a passport online, is there a step by step process on here how to make sure I don't mess it up at this stage. I am living in Scotland and my grandfather was born in Dublin.

cheers

Dfa.ie
-First time passports / FBR option / Living in UK

You'll need #s & date on FBR certificate plus an uploadable digital photo to complete online application.
Print out a few copies btw
They will specify all documents needed.

jgclancy

jgclancy wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 12, 2024 8:16 pm

Here you go:

Go to DFA.ie
Go to Passports Online
Apply Online
Click An Adult(18+)
Click First Time
Click-I understand
Country- Choose United Kingdom (GBR)
Enter Date of Birth
Citizenship Category -----select Foreign Births registration then click NEXT
Next page has info you input from FBR certificate
---Cert # at top
---Date of entry
---Entry number (6 numbers-ignore four zeroes at front if present on certificate

Rest will be follow along stuff/upload passport photo/pay/ save PDF (important) print out a few copies

good luck

jgclancy

Daymo34 wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 12, 2024 11:17 pm

Well, after months of tedious document collecting, today’s the day that I finally mail my FBR package off to the Emerald Isle - except it isn’t. Why? Because when I got home, the ink from my witness’s official stamp, which he had so kindly applied to the back of two of my photos, along with his signature and the date, clearly hadn’t had long enough to dry - nothing but an illegible, smudgy mess to behold!! You’ve got to laugh!

Still, not to worry, I’ll get more photos and he’ll do it again for me, which might actually be a blessing in disguise. And by that I mean that these documents are being sent to an official European government body for perusal/actioning, and he’s dated everything in US format. I didn’t even think about that until just now. Would that even have been an issue? And if so, are corrections allowed on the two other documents that he signed & dated?

Just when you think you’ve got it down pat, more questions!!

Thanks.

Elousseili wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 09, 2024 8:26 pm

Hi
I applied for my son for a foreign birth registration about 9 month ago but now they ask me by email to send a original document to a address that doesn’t have post code as the dhl says
Does anyone knows or have the same issue
Or have any phone number i can call to obtain the missing information
The address is

Department of Foreign Affairs | FOREIGN BIRTH REGISTRATION SECTION
Foreign Births Registration Returns Section
PO Box 13003
Balbriggan
Co Dublin
Ireland

jgclancy wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 13, 2024 2:27 am

Daymo34 wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 12, 2024 11:17 pm

Well, after months of tedious document collecting, today’s the day that I finally mail my FBR package off to the Emerald Isle - except it isn’t. Why? Because when I got home, the ink from my witness’s official stamp, which he had so kindly applied to the back of two of my photos, along with his signature and the date, clearly hadn’t had long enough to dry - nothing but an illegible, smudgy mess to behold!! You’ve got to laugh!

Still, not to worry, I’ll get more photos and he’ll do it again for me, which might actually be a blessing in disguise. And by that I mean that these documents are being sent to an official European government body for perusal/actioning, and he’s dated everything in US format. I didn’t even think about that until just now. Would that even have been an issue? And if so, are corrections allowed on the two other documents that he signed & dated?

Just when you think you’ve got it down pat, more questions!!

Thanks.

Yeah--the stamp on photo can be troublesome. You could just make a photocopy of and have him sign, date & stamp that. Stamping photo is not critical. Stamp where he witnesses on application . Also---witness needs to sign & date 2 photos ...AND make sure application # is on the 2 photos. Read Section E of the application about that.

You can include a note about date issue.

Good Luck

jgclancy

Daymo34 wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 13, 2024 1:08 pm

Htex wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 14, 2024 12:10 pm

@jgclancy (or anyone else in similar waters)....

My rejected case for FBR. I wrote the case officer twice with requests on whatever else could be done to advance my application and, as of my last writing, had received word that my application had been escalated to a "senior inspector" for review.

Update! 09/13/2024 I received word that to process my application the department needs a copy of my grandfather's (subject through which my FBR is tethered) MOTHER's death certificate. This document is not a part of the original packet request but fortunately one I am able to provide.

To anyone new to this thread, my issue for rejection was based on my Irish grandfather changing his last name from his birthname to his mother's maiden name when he fled Ireland for England to avoid the WWI draft in Ireland (working theory). In my appeals I pressed the importance of looking at the consistency of date alignments (census data, births/deaths/marriages) and how every single one was accurate and consistent with all events pertaining to my grandfather - irrespective of the name he assumed.

I will keep the group updated on my progress should it serve to help anyone else in similar predicaments.

To add a small additional piece of advice to jgclancy's brilliant guids - do yourself a favor and be sure to be polite, non-demanding, and ernest in your communications with the Irish (or any) government agent/agency. Having worked through several immigration mazes before I can attest that there is almost ALWAYS an element of professional discretion in the hands of the case officers and reviewers. Beyond communicating honestly and in a fair tone - for their own sake, remember that the person(s) on the receiving end are civil servants just trying to do their jobs. One catches more flies with honey than with vinegar.

Thanks to all who contribute here. I a truly excellent community and forum.

SB