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by Solo4Life » Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:49 am
Hi all,
I am currently on refugee leave and planning to apply for ILR. The basis for my asylum claim has been fear of prosecution from the authorities in my country because of the views I have expressed online. Since I was not inside the country, I have not been prosecuted or charged with anything but the authorities have been to our house and have enquired about me. If I go back, I will likely face prosecution. Of course, what I did is not an offence in the UK as I was expressing my right to free speech on social media and my blog.
My question is, what should I put on the application form in the section on 'convictions and other penalties'? Should I put 'no'? Or should I nonetheless click yes and explain the situation to them? I don't know if it counts as a criminal record.
Many thanks in advance
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by AmazonianX » Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:39 pm
Solo4Life wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:49 am
Hi all,
I am currently on refugee leave and planning to apply for ILR. The basis for my asylum claim has been fear of prosecution from the authorities in my country because of the views I have expressed online. Since I was not inside the country, I have not been prosecuted or charged with anything but the authorities have been to our house and have enquired about me. If I go back, I will likely face prosecution. Of course, what I did is not an offence in the UK as I was expressing my right to free speech on social media and my blog.
My question is, what should I put on the application form in the section on 'convictions and other penalties'? Should I put 'no'? Or should I nonetheless click yes and explain the situation to them? I don't know if it counts as a criminal record.
Many thanks in advance
My own opinion....you are applying for ILR based on refugee leave which you currently have.
Have you been prosecuted and convicted before? If its only the possibility of it then I would think NO will be the correct option.
HO has your details and gave you leave before, convey or express your thoughts to them again in a letter to go along with your application.
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by Solo4Life » Thu Sep 30, 2021 9:58 pm
thank you for your reply. I not applying based on refugee leave but long residence. I was on student visa before. then refugee leave and now I have been here for 10 years. I don't know which course of action is best. I can also just say yes and explain things in there? Like explain that I have not been convicted but there's the threat of it and that what I did was not illegal in the UK. Do you think that could affect my application?
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by AmazonianX » Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:53 am
Solo4Life wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 9:58 pm
thank you for your reply. I not applying based on refugee leave but long residence. I was on student visa before. then refugee leave and now I have been here for 10 years. I don't know which course of action is best. I can also just say yes and explain things in there? Like explain that I have not been convicted but there's the threat of it and that what I did was not illegal in the UK. Do you think that could affect my application?
Ok ILR LR however part of the components particularly the most recent bit is the refugee leave which details/record they have.
Seems you are bent on selecting YES, whichever one you go with, the explanation in the letter stated earlier will be important.
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by Solo4Life » Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:15 am
AmazonianX wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:53 am
Solo4Life wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 9:58 pm
thank you for your reply. I not applying based on refugee leave but long residence. I was on student visa before. then refugee leave and now I have been here for 10 years. I don't know which course of action is best. I can also just say yes and explain things in there? Like explain that I have not been convicted but there's the threat of it and that what I did was not illegal in the UK. Do you think that could affect my application?
Ok ILR LR however part of the components particularly the most recent bit is the refugee leave which details/record they have.
Seems you are bent on selecting YES, whichever one you go with, the explanation in the letter stated earlier will be important.
Thank you so much for your help. I don’t know what to do I am stuck myself. If I click yes and explain, could this delay my application? Are they going to treat it as something of a problem?
On the other hand, if I select no, are they going to accuse me of giving them false information?
Also, what is the explanation letter? Do you mean I should just add a typed and signed letter myself like a cover letter and add it to the documents I am sending?
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by AmazonianX » Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:55 am
Solo4Life wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:15 am
AmazonianX wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:53 am
Solo4Life wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 9:58 pm
thank you for your reply. I not applying based on refugee leave but long residence. I was on student visa before. then refugee leave and now I have been here for 10 years. I don't know which course of action is best. I can also just say yes and explain things in there? Like explain that I have not been convicted but there's the threat of it and that what I did was not illegal in the UK. Do you think that could affect my application?
Ok ILR LR however part of the components particularly the most recent bit is the refugee leave which details/record they have.
Seems you are bent on selecting YES, whichever one you go with, the explanation in the letter stated earlier will be important.
Thank you so much for your help. I don’t know what to do I am stuck myself. If I click yes and explain, could this delay my application? Are they going to treat it as something of a problem?
On the other hand, if I select no, are they going to accuse me of giving them false information?
Also, what is the explanation letter? Do you mean I should just add a typed and signed letter myself like a cover letter and add it to the documents I am sending?
Yes
Possibility of or fear of persecution and or prosecution due to a person's view or believes does not equate to criminal record. If you have never being prosecuted and convicted before why do you want to click YES? It is ultimately your decision to make.
On the other hand you already have leave as a refugee or granted asylum based on what you stated you fear from home country and its on record with HO. If you apply now and state this again its not new to HO.
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by Solo4Life » Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:37 am
Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone knows whether you'd need to return your refugee travel document if you get settled in a category that is not refugee settlement. I am currently a refugee but I applied for settlement under the 10-year ILR. If my application is accepted, does that mean that I am no longer entitled to hold my travel document?
Many Thanks in advance
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by zimba » Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:21 am
Solo4Life wrote: ↑Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:37 am
Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone knows whether you'd need to return your refugee travel document if you get settled in a category that is not refugee settlement. I am currently a refugee but I applied for settlement under the 10-year ILR. If my application is accepted, does that mean that I am no longer entitled to hold my travel document?
Many Thanks in advance
Criteria for getting such a document does
not depend on the route to your settled status
https://www.gov.uk/apply-home-office-travel-documentAdvice is given based on my personal research and experience only. Do NOT contact me via private message for immigration advice
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by Solo4Life » Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:26 pm
Zimba wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:21 am
Solo4Life wrote: ↑Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:37 am
Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone knows whether you'd need to return your refugee travel document if you get settled in a category that is not refugee settlement. I am currently a refugee but I applied for settlement under the 10-year ILR. If my application is accepted, does that mean that I am no longer entitled to hold my travel document?
Many Thanks in advance
Criteria for getting such a document does
not depend on the route to your settled status
https://www.gov.uk/apply-home-office-travel-document
Thank you for your reply. Are you sure that’s what it says in the link?
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by zimba » Mon Oct 25, 2021 12:20 pm
You will be eligible for a certificate of travel if there are certain conditions when you hold ILR
https://www.gov.uk/apply-home-office-tr ... -of-travelAdvice is given based on my personal research and experience only. Do NOT contact me via private message for immigration advice
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by Solo4Life » Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:27 pm
I used to be on a refugee leave and got a refugee travel document, and HO retained my national passports. Now I have settled status under the long residence (aka NOT refugee settlement) category. I would like to know if my travel document is still valid?
Many thanks in advance
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by zimba » Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:10 am
Zimba wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:21 am
Solo4Life wrote: ↑Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:37 am
Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone knows whether you'd need to return your refugee travel document if you get settled in a category that is not refugee settlement. I am currently a refugee but I applied for settlement under the 10-year ILR. If my application is accepted, does that mean that I am no longer entitled to hold my travel document?
Many Thanks in advance
Criteria for getting such a document does not depend on the route to your settled status
https://www.gov.uk/apply-home-office-travel-document
Advice is given based on my personal research and experience only. Do NOT contact me via private message for immigration advice
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by AmazonianX » Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:24 am
Solo4Life wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:27 pm
I used to be on a refugee leave and got a refugee travel document, and HO retained my national passports. Now I have settled status under the long residence (aka NOT refugee settlement) category. I would like to know if my travel document is still valid?
Many thanks in advance
This was answered for uou previously by @Zimba!
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by Solo4Life » Mon Feb 28, 2022 10:46 am
AmazonianX wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:24 am
Solo4Life wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:27 pm
I used to be on a refugee leave and got a refugee travel document, and HO retained my national passports. Now I have settled status under the long residence (aka NOT refugee settlement) category. I would like to know if my travel document is still valid?
Many thanks in advance
This was answered for uou previously by @Zimba!
Thank you for your reply. But as you see, I am not sure s/he meant I need to apply for a certificate of travel or if I can just keep my travel document and use it as before.
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by zimba » Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:16 pm
You cannot have a refugee travel document. You need to get a travel certificate if you need to travel
Advice is given based on my personal research and experience only. Do NOT contact me via private message for immigration advice
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by Solo4Life » Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:46 pm
Zimba wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:16 pm
You cannot have a refugee travel document. You need to get a travel certificate if you need to travel
Damn that's trouble
it takes 4/5 months to get that.
Thank you so much for your help and for clarification.
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by Solo4Life » Sun Apr 24, 2022 1:50 pm
Zimba wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:16 pm
You cannot have a refugee travel document. You need to get a travel certificate if you need to travel
Hi,
I just wanted to share this in case someone else had this issue in the future. So I contacted the HO and the people on the phone line didn't know the answer but they told me to contact the travel document section and so I did.
After a whole month, and three times resending the email, they finally got back to me and said my travel document is still valid to use until its expiry date.
Thank you for your help anyways and for replying to my post earlier.
