Question about birth cert for naturalisation

Hello experts,

I'm applying for naturalisation based on residence. I submitted my application last year through online portal. And now I have received the evetting invitation. So far nobody has asked me for more documents. However, I just now realized that I forgot to upload my birth cert which seems to be a required document. What should I do now? Should I contact citizenship team? Or should I just wait for some people to contact me to provide more documents? Will they simply reject my application due to no birth cert uploaded?

Thank you all in advance!

They are unlikely to reject for no birth cert. I’d email them with your registration number and ask them if they can open your application so you can add birth cert on portal. Or post a certified copy to them.

Vadrar wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:48 am

They are unlikely to reject for no birth cert. I’d email them with your registration number and ask them if they can open your application so you can add birth cert on portal. Or post a certified copy to them.

Thank you Vadrar! My birth cert is not a real birth cert from hospital. When I was born, the hospital in my country didn't issue a cert at that moment. So my birth cert is kind of a proof document issued by the notary public in my country which contains my information (name, id number, date/place of birth, etc) and my parents' information. They issued this document in both foreign language and english. Do I need to visit an Irish notary public to get it signed? Or the original one should be good enough for naturalisation?

If you post documents for naturalisation you won’t get them back and you will need certified originals or originals to get a passport. So I’d never post an original for naturalisation.

If you are uploading, all identity documents need to be certified, always.

Update:

I got my birth cert from my home country and got it certified by a notary public. Then I emailed citizenshipinfo@justice.ie to apologise my mistake that I forgot to submit birth cert in the online portal and sent them the scanned copy of birth cert together with my person id and application number.

However, they just replied me:

Please refer to the citizenship guidance document regarding proof of residency and identity documents.
www.irishimmigration.ie/wp-content/uplo ... cument.pdf

And the link they attached was also broken...

I'm now at the stage of evetting: Application process completed (the next step may be eVetting disclosure viewed?). I guess I can only wait for citizenship team to contact me for more documents or they would simply reject/approve my application.

OK, I found the correct link myself, which is https://www.irishimmigration.ie/wp-cont ... l-2024.pdf
But it only mentioned birth cert in the section of "Residency proofs based on marriage or civilpartnership" and "Special Provisions Relating to Refugees". Neither applies to me (I'm applying based on residency on stamp 4 while working & living in Ireland for >5 years). So now I'm also confused whether the birth cert is really needed or not...

nospringonion wrote: ↑

Fri May 24, 2024 12:43 pm

Update:

I got my birth cert from my home country and got it certified by a notary public. Then I emailed citizenshipinfo@justice.ie to apologise my mistake that I forgot to submit birth cert in the online portal and sent them the scanned copy of birth cert together with my person id and application number.

However, they just replied me:

Please refer to the citizenship guidance document regarding proof of residency and identity documents.
www.irishimmigration.ie/wp-content/uplo ... cument.pdf

And the link they attached was also broken...

I'm now at the stage of evetting: Application process completed (the next step may be eVetting disclosure viewed?). I guess I can only wait for citizenship team to contact me for more documents or they would simply reject/approve my application.

OK, I found the correct link myself, which is https://www.irishimmigration.ie/wp-cont ... l-2024.pdf
But it only mentioned birth cert in the section of "Residency proofs based on marriage or civilpartnership" and "Special Provisions Relating to Refugees". Neither applies to me (I'm applying based on residency on stamp 4 while working & living in Ireland for >5 years). So now I'm also confused whether the birth cert is really needed or not...

That last link is dated April 2024, which means it is the most current list of requirements. The previous such documents included a certified copy of your birth certificate, so I wouldn't worry about your application. Also, they are very thorough (hence the long delays) so they wouldn't have advanced your application to Vetting if you had missing docs.

Thank you KyukChick. Just now citizenship people emailed me:

Thank you for your email and I note the contents.

I'll post update here when I got approved or rejected or asked for more documents.

Final update:

I got the approval letter to ask me to pay the 950e fee.

So the whole story for my case in chronological order:
1. I submitted all the supporting documents (proof of residence, etc), without birth cert
2. I realized I didn't submit the IRP/GNIB stamps calculator sheet. Then I emailed citizenship team. They said it was not possible to add documents.
3. I got the letter including person ID and the email to ask me for evetting (I completed the evetting form immediately)
4. I realized I didn't submit birth cert. Then I emailed citizenship team with my birth cert. They said they added the document to my application.
5. Evetting went well, got viewed.
6. I got the approval letter to make the 950e payment.

It wasn't fun to email citizenship team since they are very busy, the reply can take a few days.
It is better to prepare the birth cert in advance. Even though the newly updated document guide may not mention it, eventually when applying for the first Irish passport, the birth cert is a required document. So keep it in hand!