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Unable to find the appropriate SOC for Data Scientist Role

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Unable to find the appropriate SOC for Data Scientist Role

Post by DSVJUK » Sat Oct 02, 2021 2:42 pm

Hello all,

I have been offered a job as Data Scientist (where I am working for several months - part time under same role) with visa sponsorship. But my employer is not having a license and will be applying for a license initially. Parallelly, I was checking for the suitable SOC code for Data Scientist role and I was not able to find out matching code in the SOL.

I am currently in UK on a Student Visa. I have 3 years of experience as Data Scientist in my home country and 1 year in the above said company in part time role(due to student visa norms).

1. What will be the most suitable SOC code for Data Scientist Role ?
2. I have a 3+ Years altogether as Data Scientist. Is that enough for tier 2?
3. My company is ready to pay the ongoing rate or higher once the suitable code is identified.
4. If there is no suitable code, can I try for tier 2 visa by specifying my title as Software Engineer or something and do the job of a Data Scientist ?


Thanks in advance!

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Re: Unable to find the appropriate SOC for Data Scientist Role

Post by manci » Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:04 pm

DSVJUK wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 2:42 pm
1. What will be the most suitable SOC code for Data Scientist Role ?
The nearest SOC codes would be 2119, 2135 or 2136, the latter two being shortage occupations. The SOC code is to be chosen by the employer, not you. In the CoS the sponsor has to provide the job description
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Sat Oct 02, 2021 2:42 pm
2. I have a 3+ Years altogether as Data Scientist. Is that enough for tier 2?
Tier 2 doesn't exist any more, it is now called the Skilled Worker route. You have to prove your suitability for the job to the employer, not to the Home Office
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Sat Oct 02, 2021 2:42 pm
3. My company is ready to pay the ongoing rate or higher once the suitable code is identified
Negotiate the best salary you can, the minima are listed here: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/immigration ... ccupations
Note that shortage occupation salaries are under tradeable option D and all salary rates are for a 39 hour week, other working patterns to be prorated.
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Re: Unable to find the appropriate SOC for Data Scientist Role

Post by DSVJUK » Sat Oct 02, 2021 7:52 pm

Could you please explain a bit about proving suitability : Tier 2 doesn't exist any more, it is now called the Skilled Worker route. You have to prove your suitability for the job to the employer, not to the Home Office.

What is the criteria on salary? Is it like I should be given at least the minimum rate ? Then what is the different % bands mentioned ?


Also, could you please explain a bot more about this : Note that shortage occupation salaries are under tradeable option D and all salary rates are for a 39 hour week, other working patterns to be prorated. ?

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Re: Unable to find the appropriate SOC for Data Scientist Role

Post by manci » Sat Oct 02, 2021 8:25 pm

DSVJUK wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 7:52 pm
Could you please explain a bit about proving suitability : Tier 2 doesn't exist any more, it is now called the Skilled Worker route. You have to prove your suitability for the job to the employer, not to the Home Office.
if the employer is prepared to sponsor you based on your background that is all that is required
DSVJUK wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 7:52 pm
What is the criteria on salary? Is it like I should be given at least the minimum rate ? Then what is the different % bands mentioned ?

Also, could you please explain a bot more about this : Note that shortage occupation salaries are under tradeable option D and all salary rates are for a 39 hour week, other working patterns to be prorated. ?
You should be paid at least the minimum which is the going rate for non-shortage occupations (first column in the table) and 80% of the going rate for shortage occupations (3rd column in the table), both based on a 39 hour week. If, for example, you work a 40 hour week the min. salary obtained from the table should be factored by 40/39 and for a 38 hour week by 38/39.
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Re: Unable to find the appropriate SOC for Data Scientist Role

Post by DSVJUK » Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:48 am

Do you have any document which supports this ? if yes, I can share with my employer.

if the employer is prepared to sponsor you based on your background that is all that is required

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Re: Unable to find the appropriate SOC for Data Scientist Role

Post by CR001 » Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:08 pm

Everything is detailed in the sponsor guidance notes if an employer wants to be a licensed sponsor and employ a foreign person.

I suggest the prospective employer reads the document as it also states what their obligations are etc.

It is not for you to find all the information for them. They should be doing this.
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Re: Unable to find the appropriate SOC for Data Scientist Role

Post by DSVJUK » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:03 pm

I will make it more clear. Its a start up company with very few employees. I am directly talking with director of the company on all these matters. So, he is asking my help also to find information before applying for sponsor license and visa.

Could you send any link, please ?

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Re: Unable to find the appropriate SOC for Data Scientist Role

Post by CR001 » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:04 pm

Why not simply Google the document name I have already given???
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Re: Unable to find the appropriate SOC for Data Scientist Role

Post by manci » Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:18 pm

CR001 wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:04 pm
Why not simply Google the document name I have already given???
The guidance for applying for a sponsor licence is here:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... le-version

or if the employer is not up to it they can instruct an immigration professional who would help them make the application.
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