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Current PSW rules

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Current PSW rules

Post by uk2233 » Wed Jan 10, 2024 6:19 pm

Hello,

I need some information for one of my friend. She is currently studying MSC in the UK & currently on Tier-3 Student Visa. Her student Visa is valid till December 2024. She will finish her studies and will be getting her Degree in Sept 2024. After sept 20204 she will be applying for PSW so We want to know what will be the rules for her to apply for PSW? Also will she get 2 years of PSW?

thanks in advance for your advice.

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Re: Current PSW rules

Post by CR001 » Wed Jan 10, 2024 6:28 pm

All the information as it currently stands, is available on UKVI's website.

https://www.gov.uk/graduate-visa

No one on the forum can tell what the rules will be in 9 or 10 months time.
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Re: Current PSW rules

Post by uk2233 » Wed Jan 10, 2024 6:39 pm

Hello,

thanks for your help with above answer this has answered most of our questions. Just one more question please. If the rule changes in the future before she apply for Graduate visa, We have heard that the future rule will affect her. The rules which were valid when she came to UK will apply related to this Visa? Is that correct?

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Re: Current PSW rules

Post by CR001 » Wed Jan 10, 2024 6:42 pm

If the Graduate Route visa rules change BEFORE she applies, then the NEW rules (if changed or route still available) applies to her.
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Re: Current PSW rules

Post by sah10406 » Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:15 am

If the rules for the Graduate visa do change and the offer is reduced in either scope or length of time or both, it is possible that there will be some sort of protection for Students who are already in the UK. If that did happen, it would probably be aimed at protecting the reputation of universities who were encouraged to put the Graduate visa front and centre in their recruitment.
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Re: Current PSW rules

Post by Frontier Mole » Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:41 am

There has never been or is there any likelihood to be a form of protection as you suggest. There is no guarantee at any stage that a graduate will automatically progress to a graduate visa. The universities invariably do grant the ability however it is not in their gift to grant the visa, only the ability to apply for it.

If the Government changes the rules then that is the position at the time the application is made, not when a student applied to become a student.

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Re: Current PSW rules

Post by sah10406 » Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:51 am

Frontier Mole wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:41 am
There has never been or is there any likelihood to be a form of protection as you suggest.
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If the Government changes the rules then that is the position at the time the application is made, not when a student applied to become a student.
Statements of Changes have included saving provisions before, so it's not impossible. Although realistically I also cannot see it happening in this case.

My point is more that while the Home Office doesn't give a shit about saving student's opportunities to apply for the Graduate visa, they do care about the reputation of UK HE who they encouraged to do a hard sell with the Graduate visa opportunity. They even trailed it a full year before implementation for that reason. It does feel like there could be some nod to that. But who knows.

Will be an interesting year for Statements of Changes, that's for sure.
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Re: Current PSW rules

Post by Frontier Mole » Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:04 am

Saving provisions are usually reserved for those in an existing route that the migrant is currently on. There has not been a protection, as far as I am aware, for those on a given route to change to a new route. Which would be the case from student to graduate. The Home Office could say any students joining the study route after a given date will not have access to the graduate visa, that would be a saving provision.

The Home Office as you say is not that bothered about the students, there has been increased friction for some years with the universities and the Home Office in general terms. There will come a time when action will be taken to throttle back overseas student numbers particularly in the lessor universities.

Statement of changes - it will be interesting in the run up to the election

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Re: Current PSW rules

Post by meself2 » Thu Jan 11, 2024 12:45 pm

uk2233 wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2024 6:39 pm
If the rule changes in the future before she apply for Graduate visa, We have heard that the future rule will affect her. The rules which were valid when she came to UK will apply related to this Visa? Is that correct?
No, the rules in place when she applies will be valid.
And HO can and does put changes up with no notice at all, eg HC 1496, which was published and put in force same day.
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