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Irish/UK Citizen (EU passport) move to Spain with Peruvian partner

Post by yurtyberger » Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:57 am

Hi all, thanks for clicking!

I'm currently in the UK, I have an Irish EU passport and I'm hoping to move to Spain soon. This part seems simple enough!

However, my partner is from Peru. Scouting around, it looks like she would be able to stay for 90 days only, unless she got a digital nomad Visa (which is unlikely looking at the requirements).

Is there any hope of being able to do this? I can see a lot of information online about visiting Spain from Peru, but not actually moving there. V confused and it's causing anxiety, would be amazing if someone knows what chance there is and which hoops we'd be able to jump through.

We are engaged but not married, would marriage make a difference?

If Spain isn't possible, are there any EU countries that would be easier?

Thanks

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Re: Irish/UK Citizen (EU passport) move to Spain with Peruvian partner

Post by Angel99 » Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:57 pm

Hi,

Of course being married to an Irish citizen will give automatic rights to live in EU for the non EU national.

Proof of Cohabitating (6 months or more) plus marriage certificate, will make it easy for your non EU spouse to be issued with EU family member visa even if the *marriage is 1 month old.*.

That will be the best route.


Easiest countries to enter via EU law/Freemovement Directive is;
*Portugal
*Netherlands
*Germany
*Spain
*France
*Sweden
*Austria

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Re: Irish/UK Citizen (EU passport) move to Spain with Peruvian partner

Post by yurtyberger » Mon Jul 01, 2024 2:34 pm

Angel99 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:57 pm
Hi,

Of course being married to an Irish citizen will give automatic rights to live in EU for the non EU national.

Proof of Cohabitating (6 months or more) plus marriage certificate, will make it easy for your non EU spouse to be issued with EU family member visa even if the *marriage is 1 month old.*.

That will be the best route.


Easiest countries to enter via EU law/Freemovement Directive is;
*Portugal
*Netherlands
*Germany
*Spain
*France
*Sweden
*Austria
Thank you!

Would the cohabiting have to be done in the EU? If we lived together for six months in the UK (with proof), would this count?

If it had to be done in Spain, how would that work given only 3 months is allowed on the visa?

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Re: Irish/UK Citizen (EU passport) move to Spain with Peruvian partner

Post by Angel99 » Mon Jul 01, 2024 4:25 pm

yurtyberger wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 2:34 pm
Angel99 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:57 pm
Hi,

Of course being married to an Irish citizen will give automatic rights to live in EU for the non EU national.

Proof of Cohabitating (6 months or more) plus marriage certificate, will make it easy for your non EU spouse to be issued with EU family member visa even if the *marriage is 1 month old.*.

That will be the best route.


Easiest countries to enter via EU law/Freemovement Directive is;
*Portugal
*Netherlands
*Germany
*Spain
*France
*Sweden
*Austria
Thank you!

Would the cohabiting have to be done in the EU? If we lived together for six months in the UK (with proof), would this count?

If it had to be done in Spain, how would that work given only 3 months is allowed on the visa?
Cohabiting could be done anywhere so far as you have proof of it. Living in UK is an advantage since it's part of Europe.

Best you use the cohabitation outside Spain.

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Re: Irish/UK Citizen (EU passport) move to Spain with Peruvian partner

Post by yurtyberger » Mon Jul 01, 2024 5:01 pm

Amazing, thank you!

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Re: Irish/UK Citizen (EU passport) move to Spain with Peruvian partner

Post by Nverde » Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:54 am

As a UE citizen you have the right of free movement within Europe. She can go to Spain for 90 days. Ideally you will move to Spain before her, get a house to live together and register in the city hall as a citizen from that area. Then ask for appointment to be registered as a couple. She will then fly to Spain, go together to the appointment and become a registered couple, which grants you the same rights as married couples. Just make sure she bring a single certificate that proofs she isn't married. You should do the same. After that you can stay in Spain as long as you wish, just don't move to other area of Spain or you'll need to start the "parejas de hecho" process all over again.
Btw, some areas don't ask for proof of cohabitation for registering, some do so check well before deciding where to relocate. Good luck!

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Re: Irish/UK Citizen (EU passport) move to Spain with Peruvian partner

Post by Angel99 » Sat Jul 13, 2024 11:48 am

Nverde wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:54 am
As a UE citizen you have the right of free movement within Europe. She can go to Spain for 90 days. Ideally you will move to Spain before her, get a house to live together and register in the city hall as a citizen from that area. Then ask for appointment to be registered as a couple. She will then fly to Spain, go together to the appointment and become a registered couple, which grants you the same rights as married couples. Just make sure she bring a single certificate that proofs she isn't married. You should do the same. After that you can stay in Spain as long as you wish, just don't move to other area of Spain or you'll need to start the "parejas de hecho" process all over again.
Btw, some areas don't ask for proof of cohabitation for registering, some do so check well before deciding where to relocate. Good luck!
They can not go to Spain and register their residence with the Policia Nacional as a couple if they're not married.

Probably you are mistaking registered partnership (same sex) to their case.

*****All your steps are incorrect.

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Re: Irish/UK Citizen (EU passport) move to Spain with Peruvian partner

Post by Nverde » Sat Jul 13, 2024 12:14 pm

Registered partnership, registered in the "registro civil" and not in the police, is not limited to same sex couples. As if I didn't know straight couples who had done the process.

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Re: Irish/UK Citizen (EU passport) move to Spain with Peruvian partner

Post by Nverde » Sat Jul 13, 2024 12:22 pm

Angel99 wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2024 11:48 am
Nverde wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:54 am
As a UE citizen you have the right of free movement within Europe. She can go to Spain for 90 days. Ideally you will move to Spain before her, get a house to live together and register in the city hall as a citizen from that area. Then ask for appointment to be registered as a couple. She will then fly to Spain, go together to the appointment and become a registered couple, which grants you the same rights as married couples. Just make sure she bring a single certificate that proofs she isn't married. You should do the same. After that you can stay in Spain as long as you wish, just don't move to other area of Spain or you'll need to start the "parejas de hecho" process all over again.
Btw, some areas don't ask for proof of cohabitation for registering, some do so check well before deciding where to relocate. Good luck!
They can not go to Spain and register their residence with the Policia Nacional as a couple if they're not married.

Probably you are mistaking registered partnership (same sex) to their case.

*****All your steps are incorrect.
Example: https://www.juntaex.es/hechos-vitales/q ... de%20Hecho.

Pareja de hecho in Extremadura. The law states, as can be read in that website:
1. Gender of the couple doesn't matter, so it's the same law for same sex and not.
2. Only required one of the members lives and is registered in the community, in this case Extremadura.

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Re: Irish/UK Citizen (EU passport) move to Spain with Peruvian partner

Post by Angel99 » Sat Jul 13, 2024 12:31 pm

Nverde wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2024 12:22 pm
Angel99 wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2024 11:48 am
Nverde wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:54 am
As a UE citizen you have the right of free movement within Europe. She can go to Spain for 90 days. Ideally you will move to Spain before her, get a house to live together and register in the city hall as a citizen from that area. Then ask for appointment to be registered as a couple. She will then fly to Spain, go together to the appointment and become a registered couple, which grants you the same rights as married couples. Just make sure she bring a single certificate that proofs she isn't married. You should do the same. After that you can stay in Spain as long as you wish, just don't move to other area of Spain or you'll need to start the "parejas de hecho" process all over again.
Btw, some areas don't ask for proof of cohabitation for registering, some do so check well before deciding where to relocate. Good luck!
They can not go to Spain and register their residence with the Policia Nacional as a couple if they're not married.

Probably you are mistaking registered partnership (same sex) to their case.

*****All your steps are incorrect.
Example: https://www.juntaex.es/hechos-vitales/q ... de%20Hecho.

Pareja de hecho in Extremadura. The law states, as can be read in that website:
1. Gender of the couple doesn't matter, so it's the same law for same sex and not.
2. Only required one of the members lives and is registered in the community, in this case Extremadura.

You personally are asking for help to migrate to Nederlands from Asia with your partner. Alright why don't you first migrate to Spain with your information and ideas and then move to Nederlands after that since its schengen and few hours via flights.

Make yourself as an example.

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Re: Irish/UK Citizen (EU passport) move to Spain with Peruvian partner

Post by Angel99 » Sat Jul 13, 2024 12:38 pm

***Partner of EU citizen does not have any rights to freemovement. You can not register as a couple. You can register as a partner if your relationship is accepted**** They first need to proof this at the embassy and issued a visa.

Spain are known to be notorious on asking unnecessary informations and documents from even married couples who have automatic rights to freemovement.

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