Formal payslips???

[destiniation_london]

HSMP guidance note says ... for past earning either you have to show formal payslips or printed payslips on company letter head.

what does formal payslip means ... does it mean those " light green" payslips which we receive from our employers in UK... are those considerd as formal..and would be accepted by Home Office...or even they would need to be attested by company HR?

those payslips are basically generated by employer from payroll bureau...
are there any registered payroll bureau in UK of whose printed payslips are recognised by Home office...

Mine is a small company with very less number of employees.. they normally produce payslips from some online company..hence the payslips given by them has their website name "www.XXX.co.uk" at the lower part of the payslips...

Would that be a issue.... Please help me in clarifying that doubt

[~J~]

get your online payslips printed and get them stamped & signed by your respective employer. make sure the stamped text is nothing but your emplyer name.

[destiniation_london]

That is the problem... obtaining signautre and stamps from HR is like a mammoth of the work and it is not encouraged in the organisation ....

Anewyas. .. they would defend it by saying they have provided formal payslips. ... why do you need one with signature again ....
and i really don't won't to disclose my intention of HSMP to them...

[~J~]

the stamp & sign are required only if they are computer printed by you from your payroll website.

As far as your current employer knowin abt your HSMP. I suggest you to let atleast your HR know as HSMP teams sometimes make verification calls.

[SYH]

That is the problem... obtaining signautre and stamps from HR is like a mammoth of the work and it is not encouraged in the organisation ....

Anewyas. .. they would defend it by saying they have provided formal payslips. ... why do you need one with signature again ....
and i really don't won't to disclose my intention of HSMP to them...

Say you want to buy property and thats what they want

[pantaiema]

Wage slip is only required to be signed and stamped if it is printed on Plain A4 paper or acquired online. It is clearly stated on the guidelines

FYI signed and stamped wage slip is not common in the UK. The caseworker are fully aware of this.

I know for sure a person, working on the MNCs in the UK apply HSMP with Wage slip without signature and stamp and get approved. I have seen a few wageslips from MNCs in the UK it is very difficult to fake (unless of course you really mean it) and it is printed on special paper.

So if you see the person did not get approval due to the fact that the pay slip is not signed and Stamped, I believe there must be a ny other reason behind it. Most probably the caseworker did not convince that the pay slip is genuine. Just to remind U all the decision for a case entirely depends of caseworker believe.

That is the problem... obtaining signautre and stamps from HR is like a mammoth of the work and it is not encouraged in the organisation ....

Anewyas. .. they would defend it by saying they have provided formal payslips. ... why do you need one with signature again ....
and i really don't won't to disclose my intention of HSMP to them...

[SYH]

Yep it depends on the case worker because last year when I submitted payslips they were on plain white paper but I didn't think anything of it because that was what I was given in the mail.
After hearing everyone elses story since then, I considere myself lucky but I did add the offer letter showing so the monies were colloborated and it worked.

[kal]

Hi Friends,

I got 2yrs of experience from Kenyan company and from there I came to UK on student visa. and I don't have all of my pay slips, will that be ok if I get all the 2yrs payslips from my Kenyan employer now again together with the other salary statements??

and another thing to make a note is my Kenyan company just print them out from the normal printer(not on letter head) just it shows the name of the company and the payroll office's signature. will that be alright for HSMP or we need any thing else.

Pls advice.

[pantaiema]

Please do not get it wrong. Just FYI people withmuch stronger than U get rejected. So it is up to you if you want to go with just of sort of this evidence

Hi Friends,

I got 2yrs of experience from Kenyan company and from there I came to UK on student visa. and I don't have all of my pay slips, will that be ok if I get all the 2yrs payslips from my Kenyan employer now again together with the other salary statements??

and another thing to make a note is my Kenyan company just print them out from the normal printer(not on letter head) just it shows the name of the company and the payroll office's signature. will that be alright for HSMP or we need any thing else.

Pls advice.

[kal]

HI Pantaiema,

Can you please let me know, what is the best available solution.
what other documents I can produce to make my case strong,
well my passport is stamped with the workpermit.


Pls advice

Kal

Please do not get it wrong. Just FYI people withmuch stronger than U get rejected. So it is up to you if you want to go with just of sort of this evidence

Hi Friends,

I got 2yrs of experience from Kenyan company and from there I came to UK on student visa. and I don't have all of my pay slips, will that be ok if I get all the 2yrs payslips from my Kenyan employer now again together with the other salary statements??

and another thing to make a note is my Kenyan company just print them out from the normal printer(not on letter head) just it shows the name of the company and the payroll office's signature. will that be alright for HSMP or we need any thing else.

Pls advice.

[pantaiema]

U need to get all of the evidence required in the guidelines. If U could not that what I could say, you just need to try your luck if U want ..

Fingers cross

HI Pantaiema,

Can you please let me know, what is the best available solution.
what other documents I can produce to make my case strong,
well my passport is stamped with the workpermit.


Pls advice

Kal

Please do not get it wrong. Just FYI people withmuch stronger than U get rejected. So it is up to you if you want to go with just of sort of this evidence

Hi Friends,

I got 2yrs of experience from Kenyan company and from there I came to UK on student visa. and I don't have all of my pay slips, will that be ok if I get all the 2yrs payslips from my Kenyan employer now again together with the other salary statements??

and another thing to make a note is my Kenyan company just print them out from the normal printer(not on letter head) just it shows the name of the company and the payroll office's signature. will that be alright for HSMP or we need any thing else.

Pls advice.

[kal]

Hi Pantaiema,

Thanks for the reply,
I didn't get you properly,
well according to the guidelines, I have to produce my pay slips stamped and signed by the company + tax documents.

my question is if I can request my company to send me duplicate payslips to me(some payslips I don't have) and I have my tax documents with me. and it is the normal procedure of the company to print the payslips on ordinary paper for all the 400+ employees(its an hirepurchase and retail company having number of branches all over the country). as that is what they issue to every employee. will those payslips be fine for HSMP??

pls reply

kal

U need to get all of the evidence required in the guidelines. If U could not that what I could say, you just need to try your luck if U want ..

Fingers cross

HI Pantaiema,

Can you please let me know, what is the best available solution.
what other documents I can produce to make my case strong,
well my passport is stamped with the workpermit.


Pls advice

Kal

Please do not get it wrong. Just FYI people withmuch stronger than U get rejected. So it is up to you if you want to go with just of sort of this evidence

Hi Friends,

I got 2yrs of experience from Kenyan company and from there I came to UK on student visa. and I don't have all of my pay slips, will that be ok if I get all the 2yrs payslips from my Kenyan employer now again together with the other salary statements??

and another thing to make a note is my Kenyan company just print them out from the normal printer(not on letter head) just it shows the name of the company and the payroll office's signature. will that be alright for HSMP or we need any thing else.

Pls advice.

[pantaiema]

If it is not printed on plain A4 paper, theguidelines does not required the wage slip to be signed and stamped. But it need to be clear that it is unique from your ocmpany. What I ahve seen sofar is that a person working on MNCs in the Uk did not have his wage slip signed and stamped but get appproved.

If your ITR document does not cover the perioed claimed (most peoiple will fall into this category), U need to provide bank statements cover the period claim and letter from employer stating the salary.

Hope this is answer your question

Hi Pantaiema,

Thanks for the reply,
I didn't get you properly,
well according to the guidelines, I have to produce my pay slips stamped and signed by the company + tax documents.

my question is if I can request my company to send me duplicate payslips to me(some payslips I don't have) and I have my tax documents with me. and it is the normal procedure of the company to print the payslips on ordinary paper for all the 400+ employees(its an hirepurchase and retail company having number of branches all over the country). as that is what they issue to every employee. will those payslips be fine for HSMP??

pls reply

kal

U need to get all of the evidence required in the guidelines. If U could not that what I could say, you just need to try your luck if U want ..

Fingers cross

HI Pantaiema,

Can you please let me know, what is the best available solution.
what other documents I can produce to make my case strong,
well my passport is stamped with the workpermit.


Pls advice

Kal

Please do not get it wrong. Just FYI people withmuch stronger than U get rejected. So it is up to you if you want to go with just of sort of this evidence

[kal]

Hi Pantaiema,

Thanks for the reply,
Well I can produce the Tax documents and the letter from the employer and I will have no problem if they contact my company in Kenya as my experience is genuine and I got my Passport stamped with my work visa for kenya. So I will request my Kenyan Employer to send me those payslips with the company seal and the signature on it. even tough its abig company, its a normal practice in kenya to issue paylisps on normal paper and I am also accompanying witht he employers salary statement and tax documents - Unfortunately I don't have any bank statements with me now, and I tried with my XBanker and it is very difficult to get one.

Hope that will be fine.

If it is not printed on plain A4 paper, theguidelines does not required the wage slip to be signed and stamped. But it need to be clear that it is unique from your ocmpany. What I ahve seen sofar is that a person working on MNCs in the Uk did not have his wage slip signed and stamped but get appproved.

If your ITR document does not cover the perioed claimed (most peoiple will fall into this category), U need to provide bank statements cover the period claim and letter from employer stating the salary.

Hope this is answer your question

Hi Pantaiema,

Thanks for the reply,
I didn't get you properly,
well according to the guidelines, I have to produce my pay slips stamped and signed by the company + tax documents.

my question is if I can request my company to send me duplicate payslips to me(some payslips I don't have) and I have my tax documents with me. and it is the normal procedure of the company to print the payslips on ordinary paper for all the 400+ employees(its an hirepurchase and retail company having number of branches all over the country). as that is what they issue to every employee. will those payslips be fine for HSMP??

pls reply

kal

U need to get all of the evidence required in the guidelines. If U could not that what I could say, you just need to try your luck if U want ..

Fingers cross

HI Pantaiema,

Can you please let me know, what is the best available solution.
what other documents I can produce to make my case strong,
well my passport is stamped with the workpermit.


Pls advice

Kal

[jagankumar]

Hi,
Right now am working in UK under Workpermit, and I Do have my last 12 months payslip which is provided by my empoyer in the UK standard payslip, Juz now I have checked my payslips, under the column NI Number and Table it mentiones "A", Is dat mandatory NI number should be there in Payslips for showing proof of earnings? As of now I have planned to give my Bank statements, and payslips as my Proof of evidence. IS dat sufficient?

[hari15]

HSMP guidance note says ... for past
what does formal payslip means ... does it mean those " light green" payslips which we receive from our employers in UK... are those considerd as formal..and would be accepted by Home Office...or even they would need to be attested by company HR?

Yes I too 90% sure that Formal Payslips means that only

It is meant only for Payslips from UK. In UK each company mostly wont have letter headed payslips they use to use Formal payslips. That is what mentioned in guidance notes.

However applicants outside UK should ignore the term 'Formal payslips'. I dont think case workers will accept any payslips without letterhead or Company seal if it is from Outside UK

[jagankumar]

Hi Hari, thanks for ur response.
but wat abt the NI Number? is dat mandatory to mention in dat payslips?

[hari15]

Hi Hari, thanks for ur response.
but wat abt the NI Number? is dat mandatory to mention in dat payslips?

I am not quite sure about impact of NI number in hsmp

But NI number is a must for any person who works primarily in UK and paying tax to UK Govt. (But those who gets main salary in other country and getting allowance in UK no need NI number)

The Term 'A' means 'Applied'

Your emplyer is saying as 'Applied' for NI number in Payslips.

if you have 'A' in NI number for 3 to 6 months it may be acceptable but it cant be in 'Applied' status for 1 whole year as far as my knowledge. Usually NI number comes in maximum of 3 months after application.


Particularly if you are claiming your gross income in UK, NI number may play a role. Because tax returns need NI number.

But if you are getting only allowance in UK and main salary in some other country then dont worry about NI number

[jagankumar]

Actually am getting my full salary in UK, not in other countries.
I Do have Tax return certificate(UK) for the period of Oct-05 to Mar 06
and (Apr 2006 to Mar 2007). It means my payslip is fully eligible right?
Before applying HSMP, I'll get my NI Number. Will this be sufficient?

Note: Deductions for NI And Tax is mentioned in Payslips.
If you need I can scan and attach my sample payslip for you.

[hari15]

Actually am getting my full salary in UK, not in other countries.
I Do have Tax return certificate(UK) for the period of Oct-05 to Mar 06
and (Apr 2006 to Mar 2007). It means my payslip is fully eligible right?
Before applying HSMP, I'll get my NI Number. Will this be sufficient?

Note: Deductions for NI And Tax is mentioned in Payslips.
If you need I can scan and attach my sample payslip for you.

Hello dont scan anything to me and I am not an authority in these things. I just told what I know

If you have proper P60 then dont worry much about NI number for HSMP.

But apply for NI number ASAP as it is a legal requirement for anybody to have NI number if we are paying tax in UK. Infact your company should worry about this and not you. I am really wondering how they given tax return without NI number. I am not a UK tax return expert. I hope some other can help you

All the best

[jagankumar]

Hi,
Juz now I verified my employer, and they gave me temporary NI Number which they were using for tax deduction, even I have called up Inland revenue office along with my temporary NI number, and they said evrything(My tax deductions) has been updated against this number. But still they said it is only temporary, Once we got our full NI number they can merge existing records. But am wondering hw to convince HO in this situation.
1) I do have proper payslips(Except NI NUmber is not mentioned in that)
2) Tax and NI were deducted from my Gross salary using temporary NI Number.
3) WIthin a month I'll get my full NI Number and will merge the existing records.

But now my question is while applying for HSMP, My prev payslips will have neither my NI number and temporary NI number.

What do I need to do in this case?