Points for earnings in more than one country

[sunil_dhingra7]

Hi, I am planning to apply for tier 1 general in First week of Feb from india. Can you please help me out for calculating points for my previous earnings. I am taking my contineous 12 months from November 2007 to October 2008. In my stay of 12 months, i have spent 6.5 months in India and rest 5.5 months in UK, what will be my base country in that case?
if i applied from india. How can i calculate the points for my previous earning.

I am getting both indian as well as UK allowance. Also i am getting payslips of indian and UK allowances.

Can i use uplift ratio when i was in india for indian salary, and add pounds which i am getting in UK for that 6.5 months. And For rest of 5.5 months when i was in UK, Can i convert indian salary into pounds without uplift ratio and add the pounds which i was getting in UK. please assist me in calculating my points for earning. please suggest. I will be thankful to you.
Thanks
S Kumar
Bombay

[QEF8DD]

Hi,

Your case is similar to mine. Please see my covering letter format -http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewto ... 7&start=20 (see the posts at the end) and you should get all the answers to ur questions.

Fill in the online points calculator also (http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/pointscalculator). Do not make your own calculations, use this calculator, it will give you total amount in GBP. You can enter earnings from multiple countries here for the 12 month period. it automatically takes care of uplift based on the 'Country' you enter.

Lastly, make sure you claim 5 points under UK experience only if you had at least 16,000GBP of earnings during you UK stay (from tier1 guidance).
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140. in the section for previous earnings, and these were for earnings made both in United Kingdom and outside the United Kingdom, at least £16,000 of the earnings must be United Kingdom earnings to receive the points for UK experience.
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cheers..

[sunil_dhingra7]

Hi,

I asked from somebody in my contacts, he got the Tier 1 general last year, and he also worked 7 months in india and 5 months in UK. but he was saying he only showed indian salary for all the 12 months with uplift ration on this. He was saying you can only claim for your base country where you stayed more in last 12 months out of 15 months. so he stayed 7 months in india.

He did not show any salary from UK.

what do you say on this.

please suggest

Thanks
S dhingra
Bombay

[rajesh9pl]

your initial forumula is right.

When in UK - UK income (no uplift), India income (uplift)
When in India - India income (uplift), UK* income (no uplift)

*I don't think u wl b getting UK income while you were in India.

[QEF8DD]

Hi,

I asked from somebody in my contacts, he got the Tier 1 general last year, and he also worked 7 months in india and 5 months in UK. but he was saying he only showed indian salary for all the 12 months with uplift ration on this. He was saying you can only claim for your base country where you stayed more in last 12 months out of 15 months. so he stayed 7 months in india.

He did not show any salary from UK.

what do you say on this.

please suggest

Thanks
S dhingra
Bombay

NO.. Don't calculate like that.It is wrong. That was on pro-rata basis and part of HSMP rule(I think) which is not valid any more.Tier1 guidance requires you to provide all the previous earnings information.

From guidance -
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87. An applicant may claim for a period of earnings of less than 12 months if they have earned sufficient funds to claim the necessary points.
We will only consider actual earnings.

88. We will never consider earnings claimed on a pro rata basis (for example when the applicant has worked part-time and tries to claim for what he/she might have earned if the work had been full-time).
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You do have to show UK earnings otherwise u might not get sufficient points.

Previous earnings is the most tricky area so you need to be extra careful with it. Take a print out of the guidance and go through it thoroughly(if you read on pc, you might miss some points).

I recently got my tier1 visa from vfs delhi, so am giving you latest information.. But do check the latest guidance as well.

[sunil_dhingra7]

Thanks for your reply, i will calculate the points as said by you

IN UK - Indian Salary into pounds with no uplift + uk pounds
IN India - Indian Salary * uplift ratio and converted into pounds

But i have one doubt, I have one month when i was in india, but i got my allowance in UK also (its the previous months earnings), can i include these pounds into my earnings.

please suggest?

Thanks for all your reply.

[QEF8DD]

Are you saying that example, you were in India on June 1 and you got the UK allowance for month of May in June ? then it should be ok but show UK allowance only for period when you were in UK.. otherwise it will get slightly complicated.... the officer will know from the immigration stamp that you were in India at so and so date so might get confused...
Try this.... if you get sufficient points just with the Indian earnings then why show the one month UK earning at all !!?? if u do not get points, then see to adding UK earning for 1 month while in India (though you will have to properly explain how/why you got UK earnings while in India)

[sunil_dhingra7]

Yes, For the month of May in UK i got some uk pounds in the month of june when i was in india,

So i wll clearly mention for the fact behind this in covering letter, without these pounds in june my points will not completed.

Also please suggest what the exchange rate i have to use for these three periods

For example i am showing for the months of

Jan- April -- In the UK
May to Oct in India
Nov to Dec in UK

What will the exchange rate i should use for this.

please suggest.

Thanks for this valuable help.

[QEF8DD]

Yes, For the month of May in UK i got some uk pounds in the month of june when i was in india,

So i wll clearly mention for the fact behind this in covering letter, without these pounds in june my points will not completed.

Also please suggest what the exchange rate i have to use for these three periods

For example i am showing for the months of

Jan- April -- In the UK
May to Oct in India
Nov to Dec in UK

What will the exchange rate i should use for this.

please suggest.

Thanks for this valuable help.

My case - Worked in 2 countries but sal slips were fully in INR because foreign allowance was reflected and added to Indian payslip.So I used last day of claim period since currency was same throughout. If you have payslips in GBP and INR , then I think you will have to make multiple sets -
1) In UK - Exch rate as of last day of GBP earning
2) In India - Exch rate as of last day of INR earning
3) Again in UK - - Exch rate as of last day of GBP earning

Please check earnings section in guidance for further information on this.
116. An applicant should use the closingspot exchange rate on the OANDA website at http://www.oanda.com/convert/classic on the last day of the period for which he/she has claimed earnings in that currency. This is an independent website, for which we are not responsible.

Since my case is slightly different than yours w.r.t to the earnings currency , do check with BHC as well on this.