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confusion about 12 individual and consecutive month income

Post by rice_porridge » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:06 pm

Dear All:
guidance 99 says: The applicant can claim points for previous earnings in any single, consecutive 12-month period during the 15 months immediately before the date of applying.
guidance 100 also says and gives out the exmaple: All the periods we specify are calendar 100. months (for example 14 January – 13 February).

My question is: If I wish to claim my earning from 20th January 2009, does my 12 month earning end?

appreciated
Last edited by rice_porridge on Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:08 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: confusion about 12 individual and consecutive month inco

Post by vks » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:07 pm

rice_porridge wrote:Dear All:
guidance 99 says: The applicant can claim points for previous earnings in any single, consecutive 12-month period during the 15 months immediately before the date of applying.
guidance 100 also says and gives out the exmaple: All the periods we specify are calendar 100. months (for example 14 January – 13 February).

My question is: If I wish to claim my earning from 20th January 2009, does my 12 month earning end?

appicated
What is your visa type?

What are you planning to do now?
Regards,
vks

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Re: confusion about 12 individual and consecutive month inco

Post by tvn_ramesh » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:09 pm

rice_porridge wrote:Dear All:
guidance 99 says: The applicant can claim points for previous earnings in any single, consecutive 12-month period during the 15 months immediately before the date of applying.
guidance 100 also says and gives out the exmaple: All the periods we specify are calendar 100. months (for example 14 January – 13 February).

My question is: If I wish to claim my earning from 20th January 2009, does my 12 month earning end?

appicated
Is your salary paid Monthly??

is your salary for Jan 2009 is paid on 20th Jan 2009?

In case monthtly salary u can claim Jan 2009-Dec2009;

Incase of weekly salary Week starting from 20th Jan 2009 Tue?? you can claim till 52weeks 18th Jan 2010 approx..

so pls let us have more info..

Cheers

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Re: confusion about 12 individual and consecutive month inco

Post by rice_porridge » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:09 pm

vks wrote:
rice_porridge wrote:Dear All:
guidance 99 says: The applicant can claim points for previous earnings in any single, consecutive 12-month period during the 15 months immediately before the date of applying.
guidance 100 also says and gives out the exmaple: All the periods we specify are calendar 100. months (for example 14 January – 13 February).

My question is: If I wish to claim my earning from 20th January 2009, does my 12 month earning end?

appicated
What is your visa type?

What are you planning to do now?
sorry forgot to specify.
T1 (G) extension, now HSMP visa holder.
employ+self-employ
Thanks

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Re: confusion about 12 individual and consecutive month inco

Post by vks » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:13 pm

rice_porridge wrote:
vks wrote:
rice_porridge wrote:Dear All:
guidance 99 says: The applicant can claim points for previous earnings in any single, consecutive 12-month period during the 15 months immediately before the date of applying.
guidance 100 also says and gives out the exmaple: All the periods we specify are calendar 100. months (for example 14 January – 13 February).

My question is: If I wish to claim my earning from 20th January 2009,
does my 12 month earning end?

19th Jan 2010

appicated
What is your visa type?

What are you planning to do now?
sorry forgot to specify.
T1 (G) extension, now HSMP visa holder.
employ+self-employ
Thanks
Regards,
vks

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Re: confusion about 12 individual and consecutive month inco

Post by rice_porridge » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:23 pm

tvn_ramesh wrote:
rice_porridge wrote:Dear All:
guidance 99 says: The applicant can claim points for previous earnings in any single, consecutive 12-month period during the 15 months immediately before the date of applying.
guidance 100 also says and gives out the exmaple: All the periods we specify are calendar 100. months (for example 14 January – 13 February).

My question is: If I wish to claim my earning from 20th January 2009, does my 12 month earning end?

appicated
Is your salary paid Monthly?? Jan 2009, is monthly salary (old company)
is your salary for Jan 2009 is paid on 20th Jan 2009? new company pay my salary on time, direct debit. payslip and pay date is the same. no problem at all. payment start from April 2009. 4-week pay. In case monthtly salary u can claim Jan 2009-Dec2009;

Incase of weekly salary Week starting from 20th Jan 2009 Tue?? you can claim till 52weeks 18th Jan 2010 approx..

so pls let us have more info..

Cheers
Thanks Dear

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Re: confusion about 12 individual and consecutive month inco

Post by tvn_ramesh » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:25 pm

rice_porridge wrote:
tvn_ramesh wrote:
rice_porridge wrote:Dear All:
guidance 99 says: The applicant can claim points for previous earnings in any single, consecutive 12-month period during the 15 months immediately before the date of applying.
guidance 100 also says and gives out the exmaple: All the periods we specify are calendar 100. months (for example 14 January – 13 February).

My question is: If I wish to claim my earning from 20th January 2009, does my 12 month earning end?

appicated
Is your salary paid Monthly?? Jan 2009, is monthly salary (old company)
is your salary for Jan 2009 is paid on 20th Jan 2009? new company pay my salary on time, direct debit. payslip and pay date is the same. no problem at all. payment start from April 2009. 4-week pay. In case monthtly salary u can claim Jan 2009-Dec2009;

Incase of weekly salary Week starting from 20th Jan 2009 Tue?? you can claim till 52weeks 18th Jan 2010 approx..

so pls let us have more info..

Cheers
Thanks Dear
I think you are on Monthly Salary payment.. that is good

Is there a gap between or no salary between Old company and new compnay Jan 09 ENd - till 1st April 09?

sorry if i read it wrong..

And when you want to apply?

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Re: confusion about 12 individual and consecutive month inco

Post by rice_porridge » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:29 pm

tvn_ramesh wrote:
rice_porridge wrote:
tvn_ramesh wrote:
rice_porridge wrote:Dear All:
guidance 99 says: The applicant can claim points for previous earnings in any single, consecutive 12-month period during the 15 months immediately before the date of applying.
guidance 100 also says and gives out the exmaple: All the periods we specify are calendar 100. months (for example 14 January – 13 February).

My question is: If I wish to claim my earning from 20th January 2009, does my 12 month earning end?

appicated
Is your salary paid Monthly?? Jan 2009, is monthly salary (old company)


is your salary for Jan 2009 is paid on 20th Jan 2009? new company pay my salary on time, direct debit. payslip and pay date is the same. no problem at all. payment start from April 2009. 4-week pay. In case monthtly salary u can claim Jan 2009-Dec2009;

Incase of weekly salary Week starting from 20th Jan 2009 Tue?? you can claim till 52weeks 18th Jan 2010 approx..

so pls let us have more info..

Cheers
Thanks Dear
I think you are on Monthly Salary payment.. that is good

Is there a gap between or no salary between Old company and new compnay Jan 09 ENd - till 1st April 09?

sorry if i read it wrong..

And when you want to apply?
Hi Dear; I want to apply on 20th Jan 2010 by claiming my salary period between 15th Jan 2009 to 14th Jan 2010. However, I was told by an OISC advisor that the period is wrong, it would be 15th Feb 2009 till 15th Jan 2010 if i wish to apply on 20th Jan 2010.

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Re: confusion about 12 individual and consecutive month inco

Post by tvn_ramesh » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:31 pm

rice_porridge wrote:
tvn_ramesh wrote: I think you are on Monthly Salary payment.. that is good

Is there a gap between or no salary between Old company and new compnay Jan 09 ENd - till 1st April 09?

sorry if i read it wrong..

And when you want to apply?
Hi Dear; I want to apply on 20th Jan 2010 by claiming my salary period between 15th Jan 2009 to 14th Jan 2010. However, I was told by an OISC advisor that the period is wrong, it would be 15th Feb 2009 till 15th Jan 2010 if i wish to apply on 20th Jan 2010.
He is right you can claim Feb 2009 Salary till Jan 2010 Salary (incase of monthly salary);

you ignored my query above

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Re: confusion about 12 individual and consecutive month inco

Post by rice_porridge » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:44 pm

tvn_ramesh wrote:
rice_porridge wrote:
tvn_ramesh wrote: I think you are on Monthly Salary payment.. that is good

Is there a gap between or no salary between Old company and new compnay Jan 09 ENd - till 1st April 09?

sorry if i read it wrong..

And when you want to apply?
Hi Dear; I want to apply on 20th Jan 2010 by claiming my salary period between 15th Jan 2009 to 14th Jan 2010. However, I was told by an OISC advisor that the period is wrong, it would be 15th Feb 2009 till 15th Jan 2010 if i wish to apply on 20th Jan 2010.
He is right you can claim Feb 2009 Salary till Jan 2010 Salary (incase of monthly salary);

you ignored my query above
sorry dear. My poor eightsight.
In fact there is no gap. I left my old company on 22nd Feb 09 and started employment in new company on 23rd Feb 2009. However, my employer from old company still paid me monthly (15th every month) until March. (He forgot to cancel the company direct debit to my account) Therefore, my bank statement still shows his company title and payment until 15th March 2009.
I have payslips until February 2009 as I have been working there for many years. However, the payslip for Jan and Feb 2009 are not dated right. Neither is the amout. But I will ask him and accoutant to write a letter. Or alternatively, in order to avoid confusion, I will have to ignore that salaried payment from that company.

Thanks for reading my long story. -_*

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Re: confusion about 12 individual and consecutive month inco

Post by tvn_ramesh » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:49 pm

rice_porridge wrote:
tvn_ramesh wrote:
rice_porridge wrote:
tvn_ramesh wrote: I think you are on Monthly Salary payment.. that is good

Is there a gap between or no salary between Old company and new compnay Jan 09 ENd - till 1st April 09?

sorry if i read it wrong..

And when you want to apply?
Hi Dear; I want to apply on 20th Jan 2010 by claiming my salary period between 15th Jan 2009 to 14th Jan 2010. However, I was told by an OISC advisor that the period is wrong, it would be 15th Feb 2009 till 15th Jan 2010 if i wish to apply on 20th Jan 2010.
He is right you can claim Feb 2009 Salary till Jan 2010 Salary (incase of monthly salary);

you ignored my query above
sorry dear. My poor eightsight.
In fact there is no gap. I left my old company on 22nd Feb 09 and started employment in new company on 23rd Feb 2009. However, my employer from old company still paid me monthly (15th every month) until March. (He forgot to cancel the company direct debit to my account) Therefore, my bank statement still shows his company title and payment until 15th March 2009.
I have payslips until February 2009 as I have been working there for many years. However, the payslip for Jan and Feb 2009 are not dated right. Neither is the amout. But I will ask him and accoutant to write a letter. Or alternatively, in order to avoid confusion, I will have to ignore that salaried payment from that company.

Thanks for reading my long story. -_*
Ok got it now..

yes pls do get aletter fro those 2months and the extra payment.. if not caseworker will be confused and if u dont explain in a letter u will be at risk..

please put which ever months you are claiming for Earnings points clearly in cover letter

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Re: confusion about 12 individual and consecutive month inco

Post by mno2uk » Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:33 pm

Ramesh - any clue as to what basic consideration or information that the CW seeks or want to know from the employee letter or the pay slips --

- Is it just the gross salary part showing :

all items totalling upto the gross amount (since they consider gross salary as per the guidance and thats what we include for our earnings points set..

- and net salary pay after deductions (if any) - items under it ..and

- does any other information on it makes a difference to it ..like tax calculation /investments etc that show the projected yearly values..

- Ofcourse the second part that the net pay should match the one in bank statements we produce with it..

Do correct me if i am wrong anyplace Ramesh..

Good luck to all .. Thanks to all ..

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Re: confusion about 12 individual and consecutive month inco

Post by tvn_ramesh » Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:38 pm

mno2uk wrote:Ramesh - any clue as to what basic consideration or information that the CW seeks or want to know from the employee letter or the pay slips --

Is it just the gross and net salary pay amounts and does any other information on it makes a difference to it ..like tax calculation /investments etc that show the projected yearly values..

Thanks to all ..
Please check the SALARY EXPLANATION part of the templates CHetan added in the sticky..

http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=46010

Employer letter normally is required when there is a conspirancy in the payments on payslip vs bankstatements because of the mistake of employer or accounts dept or payroll dept but not urs.. so this letter will give the CW the reason to look ur application positively..

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Re: confusion about 12 individual and consecutive month inco

Post by mno2uk » Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:52 pm

Hmm .. i am aware of the formats chetan has shared ..Ramesh..

Dnt think you got what i asked - I am just wondering what they look for on the pay slips.. are they concerned abot jst the totals of gross salary and the net pay matching the bank statements ..

are they also interested in the investments / tax calculations of ours ?

About the mistakes part :

just wanted to clarify that -- in my case there are 2 mistakes on the banks part and i have a letter from them but not from the employer accnts ppl..i only have an email talking abt one of them and not for the other..
i will try but i dnt think they will be as cooperative .. it was not as easy with bank staff either getting letter from them./
Thanks..
tvn_ramesh wrote:
mno2uk wrote:Ramesh - any clue as to what basic consideration or information that the CW seeks or want to know from the employee letter or the pay slips --

Is it just the gross and net salary pay amounts and does any other information on it makes a difference to it ..like tax calculation /investments etc that show the projected yearly values..

Thanks to all ..
Please check the SALARY EXPLANATION part of the templates CHetan added in the sticky..

http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=46010

Employer letter normally is required when there is a conspirancy in the payments on payslip vs bankstatements because of the mistake of employer or accounts dept or payroll dept but not urs.. so this letter will give the CW the reason to look ur application positively..

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Re: confusion about 12 individual and consecutive month inco

Post by tvn_ramesh » Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:05 pm

mno2uk wrote:Hmm .. i am aware of the formats chetan has shared ..Ramesh..

Dnt think you got what i asked - I am just wondering what they look for on the pay slips.. are they concerned abot jst the totals of gross salary and the net pay matching the bank statements ..

are they also interested in the investments / tax calculations of ours ?

About the mistakes part :

just wanted to clarify that -- in my case there are 2 mistakes on the banks part and i have a letter from them but not from the employer accnts ppl..i only have an email talking abt one of them and not for the other..
i will try but i dnt think they will be as cooperative .. it was not as easy with bank staff either getting letter from them./
Thanks..
I think the CW is concerned with ur

1. GROSS amount on the payslips from which he will calculate that Points you claimed for earnings and are they matching...

2. NET amount on the payslips which he will try to match with the bankstatements.. if they match he is not concerned abt others other then there is something really suspecious..

regarding teh 2mistakes if the mistakes are from bank then letter from banks shd be fine..

but u also make sure to explain it in the cover letter so that CW knows wat to expect and letter shd help u to clear his doubts and still incase of doubt.. he will call the Bank so pls make sure u give proper contact details

Please wait for other Seniors to comment on ur case.. goodluck

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