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K2004
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by K2004 » Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:21 pm
isaw this on bbc news last night but i couldnt find the link for it, imagine something like this happend in the UK
http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/a ... rent_id=21
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Dawie
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by Dawie » Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:55 pm
Something like this will have to happen eventually in the UK. In the news last night on the BBC they stated that at the current rate of deportations it would take almost 20 years to deport every single illegal immigrant in the UK, not to mention the expense involved!
Eventually the Home Office will come to its senses and realise that it will have no other option but to offer an amnesty to illegal immigrants. It's the only way to bring them out of the shadows and turn them into tax-paying members of society. Deporting all of them is certainly not a viable solution, whether economically or politically.
In a few years time we'll look back on immigration control like we look back on American prohibition in the thirties - futile and counter-productive.
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by tvt » Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:02 pm
There was already such an amnesty in the UK in 2003/4 (if I remember correctly) for failed asylum seekers with families. All were granted ILR.
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Dawie
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by Dawie » Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:05 pm
There was already such an amnesty in the UK in 2003/4 (if I remember correctly) for failed asylum seekers with families. All were granted ILR.
I would think that the vast majority of illegal immigrants in the UK are NOT failed asylum seekers, but just economic migrants consisting mainly of visa overstayers.
In a few years time we'll look back on immigration control like we look back on American prohibition in the thirties - futile and counter-productive.
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by Chess » Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:05 pm
tvt wrote:There was already such an amnesty in the UK in 2003/4 (if I remember correctly) for failed asylum seekers with families. All were granted ILR.
The amnesty was restrictive!!
I read that HO is trialling giving illegal immigrants £3,000 to head back home. What a real big JOKE!.?..that money can be eraned by someone on mimimum wage within 2 months......
Where there is a will there is a way.
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by Marie B » Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:38 pm
The amnesty was restrictive - which is why it is currently being challenged.
There has been another amnesty for failed asylum seekers with families who had arrived in this country and subsequently had a child - the new date to register for this was December 31st 2005. Anybody heard about it? I guess not as it wasn't widely publicised, have to dig around on the IND website to find it. The original amnesty required the child to have been before a certain date, in the latest amnesty the date was more recent (October 2003 possibly) - a lot of people had missed out as their child had been born 'too late'.
The amnesty was challenged in court as one of the requirements was not to have any criminal convictions including driving convictions - families where one person had 3 points on their licence were turned down. The HO lost the case. These families have now been allowed to re-apply, it has been decided that the HO can now use their discretion when looking at such cases.
The amnesty is also being challenged at the moment by unaccompanied minors, who were not allowed to apply even though the reasoning behind introducing the amnesty was to stop disruption to children's lives who have spent a lot of time in this country. This is case ongoing.
I imagine these family amnestys will continue with new qualifying dates for when the families' child was born.
I imagine the HO think these amnestys wouldn't go down very well with the general public and that is why they seem to be so hush - hush (not much info. on IND website - few bits of info about applying can be found on anti-deportation websites - and most of them just recommend contacting solicitor).
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by Marie B » Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:47 pm
I would think that the vast majority of illegal immigrants in the UK are NOT failed asylum seekers, but just economic migrants consisting mainly of visa overstayers.
I do remember reading an article and watching a report on BBC News, maybe six months ago, about the nationality of illegal immigrants - the largest number in their research appeared to be US Citizens on expired visas.
Although how would they be able to find out if HO have absolutely no idea who is in the country??
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by Dawie » Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:42 pm
I do remember reading an article and watching a report on BBC News, maybe six months ago, about the nationality of illegal immigrants - the largest number in their research appeared to be US Citizens on expired visas.
It wouldn't surprise me. US citizens usually think they can just wave their US passports around and the normal immigration rules don't apply to them.
In a few years time we'll look back on immigration control like we look back on American prohibition in the thirties - futile and counter-productive.
