Alixlboy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:41 pm
Both INIS and the court need to get this issue resolved ASAP.
It is stupid and unfair to keep applicants waiting for ages due to one wrong decision from the court.
INIS issued citizenship approvals to thousands of people and nobody had a clue about what the law stated or did not state until a grumpy judge issues a ruling based on Oxford Dictionary.
I agree they need to resolve it ASAP but its unfair to call him grumpy. Judges do refer to dictionaries all the time and he was right re legislature. The law is far too ambitious and should’ve stated ‘...Absence of 6 weeks prior to application for Naturalization is allowed’.
Yes, it buffs me that he merely looked up ‘continuous’ and not ‘residence’ too. One would need a legal residence permit to officially/legally reside in a state. A visit elsewhere out of the State does not render one a resident of that country. Eg. I’m legally residing in Ireland with a valid residence permit and my travelling to Timbuktu for a holiday wouldn’t render me a resident there.
The Minister shouldn’t have discretionary powers as one can argue either way re his decision and what it was based on. Everything should be clear and no room for error.
Please don’t get me wrong- this affects me too. I selfishly wish all this wasn’t getting sorted whilst my application is being processed.
I never thought Brexit would go ahead - just felt absolutely odd. There are far too compounding factors! It was extended once and might again.
I pondered on how the Ministry of Justice & Equality would have the citizenship procedure get affected bar the exponential rise in applications and I realized the Brit citizens who are here with their family members would need to have their visa status changed. They’re probably prepping for that.
I think applications are still being processed pending the final word/judgement that we should be expecting in early November re the 6 week period. Legislature is definitely needed though and they’ll go through that. My hope is that the appealed judgement would work in favour of us with the 6 week period that is allowed and that they go ahead with legislature to change it once and for all, holding ceremonies in the meantime. It would unfortunately be rather embarrassing for the State with the backlog, the application process, etc when light is thrown into it.
Having chatted with friends, I’ve come to realize that people are approved/processed faster than others possibly due to the fact that their files aren’t too thick. I literally sent them everything + more based what others have been asked for eg. GP’s letter, etc. I had a cover page, a table of cont. too! Of course someone would look at the big folder and decide to process a much thinner folder.
Not that I’m in agreement with this/condoning them- just makes sense, doesn’t it?
Re a stand-in/protest, please ensure you look at everything legally ie. seeking permission if required (I don’t know what it entails and what the laws governing the same state). Last thing you need is to have a mark attached to your name which could hinder your application.
We all agree that this isn’t a nice experience but we can agree that a few things are necessary - legislature, etc. We are passionate about this as it is directly affecting us. I do beat myself up for not having applied a year and a half ago when I was legible but I wasn’t sure if I was ready to give up my current citizenship as my country of origin does not allow dual citizenship.
Apologies for lapsing into a monologue or soliloquy. It is vital that whilst we exercise our right of free speech, that we don’t unnecessarily verbally assassinate another’s character (apologies.. not being dramatic here even though I’m from the land of Bollywood!)
Yours in waiting,
Bealtaine
(Nope.. not supporting anyone here. I’d really like this sorted ASAP but one has to get on with life whilst waiting!)
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