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Citizenship application ... Please read
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:06 pm
by mo_jo
Hello all members,
I am about to apply for my citizenship next week.
Here my story,
I have entered the UK illegally in 2003 stayed with no problems till I got caught by the immigration in June 2005 and I have claimed asylum, I have been released to attend court for my asylum case which I didn't attend so not sure what has happened but surly it has been refused.
I met my British wife 2005 and been in relationship with her till we decided to get back home so we can lawfully married.
So we went to my home country and paid for the ticket so I have not been deported and we got married in 2009, then applied for my spouse visa but it has been refused as I didn't answer the question in the application asked about if I have been asked to leave the UK or if I have submitted an application, and because I didn't know about the asylum case counted as an application and for that reason I have been refused.
I appealed against the decision and my appeal is dismissed under the immigration rules but allowed under human rights, and so I got my spouse visa.
When I applied for my ILR the officer asked my about my immigration history just to be sure I am the same person as she explained to me.
I have never been in any trouble with Police I have a clean CRB as I have to apply for one every year.
The question is would my immigration history would cause any problem or delay to my Citizenship application ?
I am really worried and I hope someone would help me.
Thanks a lot guys
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:53 pm
by mo_jo
Please guys someone just reply as I am really worried, surly there is a lot of cases similar to main have applied in the past year or two I just want to know if my case will be effected by my immigration history or it should be ok as my application is based on marriage to a BC.
I am waiting desperately for your answers.
Re: Citizenship application ... Please read
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:59 pm
by bobobo
Previous Immigration history is a factor the HO look at, If however you have been legally here after marriage with your spouse then I dont see this being a big issue. You should be honest about everything on the form and hope for the best
mo_jo wrote:Hello all members,
I am about to apply for my citizenship next week.
Here my story,
I have entered the UK illegally in 2003 stayed with no problems till I got caught by the immigration in June 2005 and I have claimed asylum, I have been released to attend court for my asylum case which I didn't attend so not sure what has happened but surly it has been refused.
I met my British wife 2005 and been in relationship with her till we decided to get back home so we can lawfully married.
So we went to my home country and paid for the ticket so I have not been deported and we got married in 2009, then applied for my spouse visa but it has been refused as I didn't answer the question in the application asked about if I have been asked to leave the UK or if I have submitted an application, and because I didn't know about the asylum case counted as an application and for that reason I have been refused.
I appealed against the decision and my appeal is dismissed under the immigration rules but allowed under human rights, and so I got my spouse visa.
When I applied for my ILR the officer asked my about my immigration history just to be sure I am the same person as she explained to me.
I have never been in any trouble with Police I have a clean CRB as I have to apply for one every year.
The question is would my immigration history would cause any problem or delay to my Citizenship application ?
I am really worried and I hope someone would help me.
Thanks a lot guys
Re: Citizenship application ... Please read
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:50 pm
by mo_jo
bobobo wrote:Previous Immigration history is a factor the HO look at, If however you have been legally here after marriage with your spouse then I dont see this being a big issue. You should be honest about everything on the form and hope for the best
mo_jo wrote:Hello all members,
I am about to apply for my citizenship next week.
Here my story,
I have entered the UK illegally in 2003 stayed with no problems till I got caught by the immigration in June 2005 and I have claimed asylum, I have been released to attend court for my asylum case which I didn't attend so not sure what has happened but surly it has been refused.
I met my British wife 2005 and been in relationship with her till we decided to get back home so we can lawfully married.
So we went to my home country and paid for the ticket so I have not been deported and we got married in 2009, then applied for my spouse visa but it has been refused as I didn't answer the question in the application asked about if I have been asked to leave the UK or if I have submitted an application, and because I didn't know about the asylum case counted as an application and for that reason I have been refused.
I appealed against the decision and my appeal is dismissed under the immigration rules but allowed under human rights, and so I got my spouse visa.
When I applied for my ILR the officer asked my about my immigration history just to be sure I am the same person as she explained to me.
I have never been in any trouble with Police I have a clean CRB as I have to apply for one every year.
The question is would my immigration history would cause any problem or delay to my Citizenship application ?
I am really worried and I hope someone would help me.
Thanks a lot guys
Thanks a lot for your response.
I have been very honest before and now, the problem is there is nothing in the application form asking about any pervious immigration history and the Home Office they know already about my situation and the whole story.
So you think it shouldn't be a problem then?
Thanks
Re: Citizenship application ... Please read
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:42 am
by bobobo
As long as you dont lie or hide information you should be fine. If you are upfront then they dont have much to penalise you on as you are legally here now, dont give thema chance to get you.
mo_jo wrote:bobobo wrote:Previous Immigration history is a factor the HO look at, If however you have been legally here after marriage with your spouse then I dont see this being a big issue. You should be honest about everything on the form and hope for the best
mo_jo wrote:Hello all members,
I am about to apply for my citizenship next week.
Here my story,
I have entered the UK illegally in 2003 stayed with no problems till I got caught by the immigration in June 2005 and I have claimed asylum, I have been released to attend court for my asylum case which I didn't attend so not sure what has happened but surly it has been refused.
I met my British wife 2005 and been in relationship with her till we decided to get back home so we can lawfully married.
So we went to my home country and paid for the ticket so I have not been deported and we got married in 2009, then applied for my spouse visa but it has been refused as I didn't answer the question in the application asked about if I have been asked to leave the UK or if I have submitted an application, and because I didn't know about the asylum case counted as an application and for that reason I have been refused.
I appealed against the decision and my appeal is dismissed under the immigration rules but allowed under human rights, and so I got my spouse visa.
When I applied for my ILR the officer asked my about my immigration history just to be sure I am the same person as she explained to me.
I have never been in any trouble with Police I have a clean CRB as I have to apply for one every year.
The question is would my immigration history would cause any problem or delay to my Citizenship application ?
I am really worried and I hope someone would help me.
Thanks a lot guys
Thanks a lot for your response.
I have been very honest before and now, the problem is there is nothing in the application form asking about any pervious immigration history and the Home Office they know already about my situation and the whole story.
So you think it shouldn't be a problem then?
Thanks
Re: Citizenship application ... Please read
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:54 pm
by spoiled brat
there is a section where they ask you to write anything else you feel relevant and if necessary, use a separate page to continue...
i would certainly have used that or a covering letter along with it, to explain the above or past immigration history.
why give them a chance to refuse the application due to confusion when you could easily explain it in a covering letter like you have done on this forum ? i see no reason for them to refuse it based on the above, however if a (dumb) case worker looks at the immigration history which they will most probably, there is a chance they might refuse even though you're assuming they already should know this...
you see they know a lot of things about us already, but that doesn't mean we should assume they will act accordingly and in our best interest, it's our responsibility to put the case forward when necessary and explain if need be.
i certainly feel there was a strong case for you to explain it in a covering letter or use that bit at the end of the form , where they ask for any other information. [/b]
Re: Citizenship application ... Please read
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:04 pm
by bobobo
OP has been granted a Spouse Visa and ILR, dont see why they should refuse the Nationality application. Sometimes given more than required confuses things so a sensible approach is always the best way forward
spoiled brat wrote:mo_jo wrote:bobobo wrote:Previous Immigration history is a factor the HO look at, If however you have been legally here after marriage with your spouse then I dont see this being a big issue. You should be honest about everything on the form and hope for the best
mo_jo wrote:Hello all members,
I am about to apply for my citizenship next week.
Here my story,
I have entered the UK illegally in 2003 stayed with no problems till I got caught by the immigration in June 2005 and I have claimed asylum, I have been released to attend court for my asylum case which I didn't attend so not sure what has happened but surly it has been refused.
I met my British wife 2005 and been in relationship with her till we decided to get back home so we can lawfully married.
So we went to my home country and paid for the ticket so I have not been deported and we got married in 2009, then applied for my spouse visa but it has been refused as I didn't answer the question in the application asked about if I have been asked to leave the UK or if I have submitted an application, and because I didn't know about the asylum case counted as an application and for that reason I have been refused.
I appealed against the decision and my appeal is dismissed under the immigration rules but allowed under human rights, and so I got my spouse visa.
When I applied for my ILR the officer asked my about my immigration history just to be sure I am the same person as she explained to me.
I have never been in any trouble with Police I have a clean CRB as I have to apply for one every year.
The question is would my immigration history would cause any problem or delay to my Citizenship application ?
I am really worried and I hope someone would help me.
Thanks a lot guys
Thanks a lot for your response.
I have been very honest before and now, the problem is there is nothing in the application form asking about any pervious immigration history and the Home Office they know already about my situation and the whole story.
So you think it shouldn't be a problem then?
Thanks
there is a section where they ask you to write anything else you feel relevant and if necessary, use a separate page to continue...
i would certainly have used that or a covering letter along with it, to explain the above or past immigration history.
why give them a chance to refuse the application due to confusion when you could easily explain it in a covering letter like you have done on this forum ? i see no reason for them to refuse it based on the above, however if a (dumb) case worker looks at the immigration history which they will most probably, there is a chance they might refuse even though you're assuming they already should know this...
you see they know a lot of things about us already, but that doesn't mean we should assume they will act accordingly and in our best interest, it's our responsibility to put the case forward when necessary and explain if need be.
i certainly feel there was a strong case for you to explain it in a covering letter or use that bit at the end of the form , where they ask for any other information.
Re: Citizenship application ... Please read
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:40 pm
by mo_jo
So bobobo, do you know anyone who has a similar situation with immigration history has been granted the nationality?
I have not submitted my application yet so please advise me.
Thanks
bobobo wrote:OP has been granted a Spouse Visa and ILR, dont see why they should refuse the Nationality application. Sometimes given more than required confuses things so a sensible approach is always the best way forward
spoiled brat wrote:mo_jo wrote:bobobo wrote:Previous Immigration history is a factor the HO look at, If however you have been legally here after marriage with your spouse then I dont see this being a big issue. You should be honest about everything on the form and hope for the best
Thanks a lot for your response.
I have been very honest before and now, the problem is there is nothing in the application form asking about any pervious immigration history and the Home Office they know already about my situation and the whole story.
So you think it shouldn't be a problem then?
Thanks
there is a section where they ask you to write anything else you feel relevant and if necessary, use a separate page to continue...
i would certainly have used that or a covering letter along with it, to explain the above or past immigration history.
why give them a chance to refuse the application due to confusion when you could easily explain it in a covering letter like you have done on this forum ? i see no reason for them to refuse it based on the above, however if a (dumb) case worker looks at the immigration history which they will most probably, there is a chance they might refuse even though you're assuming they already should know this...
you see they know a lot of things about us already, but that doesn't mean we should assume they will act accordingly and in our best interest, it's our responsibility to put the case forward when necessary and explain if need be.
i certainly feel there was a strong case for you to explain it in a covering letter or use that bit at the end of the form , where they ask for any other information.
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:40 pm
by mo_jo
So bobobo, do you know anyone who has a similar situation with immigration history has been granted the nationality?
I have not submitted my application yet so please advise me.
Thanks
Re: Citizenship application ... Please read
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:56 pm
by spoiled brat
better safe than sorry, The poster also mentions the officer /case worker asking him about his immigration history.
i would much rather disclose it personally because there is nothing to hide instead of taking the "sensible approach by assuming they will know it all,themselves and won't bother" .
i don't see how it will confuse them or make things complicated for HO, as the assumption is they should know, so they will clearly be in no doubt after they read the covering letter or explanation.
just my 2 cents.
Re: Citizenship application ... Please read
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:06 pm
by Gyfrinachgar
Guys, please - I don't want to be caught nit-picking again, but is it really really necessary to cite the whole past posts including quotes 5 levels up? It makes a thread very difficult and tiresome to follow.
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:02 pm
by mo_jo
Please guys all I want to know if there is anyone who have kind of the same situation and applied recently for a citizenship what did he/she submit and what was the outcome decision?
Thanks guys for all your help