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Hi,

Could you help me about referees for the citizenship (AN form)?

Can you tell me which of these referees are acceptable?
Currently what can see as referees are:

1) A despatch manager (used to be my manager) in a different departement in the same company as me. (British)

2) A professional translator English/French, I use her service 4 or 5 times over last 3 years. (dual British/French)

3) IT engineer worker in the same company as me. (British)

4) QC (quality contoller) manager in the same company as me. (German)

I know all these referees over 3 years and there are over 25 years old.

Thank you in advance for your help.

expresso wrote:Hi,

Could you help me about referees for the citizenship (AN form)?

Can you tell me which of these referees are acceptable?
Currently what can see as referees are:

1) A despatch manager (used to be my manager) in a different departement in the same company as me. (British)

2) A professional translator English/French, I use her service 4 or 5 times over last 3 years. (dual British/French)

3) IT engineer worker in the same company as me. (British)

4) QC (quality contoller) manager in the same company as me. (German)

I know all these referees over 3 years and there are over 25 years old.

Thank you in advance for your help.

First reference use 1)
Second reference use either 2) or 3)

First reference use 1. ( 1) A despatch manager (used to be my manager) in a different department in the same company as me. (British)

I have a query about using a departmental manager as the first reference ?

The HO referees guide indicates that the below professionals are acceptable.

Director/Manager/Personnel Officer of a VAT registered Company. Manager/Personnel officer (of limited company).
Is this to be interpreted as any manager within these companies (e.g. a departmental manager) or is this the overall manager (most senior manager e.g. company manager, site manager, MD) of the company.
Does anyone have experience of or know of successfully using company departmental managers ?
Thanks for your views in advance.

A manager is a manager.
A departmental manager is a manager.
A non departmental manager is a manager.
A toilet cleaner's manager is a manager.
A restaurant manager is a manager.
A manager of a taxi rank is a manager.
Whoever is called a manager in a company or organisation is a manager.

So, a manager is a manager, and if a manager is a manager, then he/she can act as a referee.

Now, there could soon be a bollywood film out called "manager and doubts of an immigrant".

Asim72, thanks for your quick response and clarification.
The wording of the guide did create some doubt when I read into it. The doubt was caused by the guidance wording - Manager 'of a' (which suggests the MD / most senior manager /Boss) rather than - Manager 'in a' (which suggest any Manager including departmental managers within the company).
Like lots of HO's policies the interpretation can vary due to casual use of terminology and / or nervous applicants reading into different possibly interpretations of guidance.

Nervous applicants reading into different possible interpretations of guidance. These type of nervous applicants usually tend to be from Indian subcontinent.

Can a retired teacher and the previous landlord are the two referees? Both of them are English.

Can you please read the form and guidance. It tells you in very simple plain english who can act as a referee.

Many a times it seems that nursery kids are asking questions.