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Newborn of hungarian mother with PR and Pakistani father

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:48 pm
by hunpak
Hi
My hungarian national wife who has a permanent resident card in uk and is in process to apply for British citizen, the baby is due in oct.
I am a Pakistani national and my pr will be in 2014.
The question is what will be my babys status when he/she is born?
What do we need to do?

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:54 pm
by Jambo
If your wife is not BC before the birth and the child is born in the UK, the child will be British. If your wife would already be British before the birth, the child wouldl be British regardless where he is born. He would probably also be Hungarian and Pakistani.
With regards to the UK authorities, nothing needs to be done. If he is British, you can apply for his British passport if you wish. I'm not familiar with the requirements of Hungary or Pakistan (sometimes countries require to register the birth of born abroad children).

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:07 pm
by ravii
Your baby is dual national,i.e,British and Pakistani.

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:34 pm
by hunpak
Jambo wrote:If your wife is not BC before the birth and the child is born in the UK, the child will be British. If your wife would already be British before the birth, the child wouldl be British regardless where he is born. He would probably also be Hungarian and Pakistani.
With regards to the UK authorities, nothing needs to be done. If he is British, you can apply for his British passport if you wish. I'm not familiar with the requirements of Hungary or Pakistan (sometimes countries require to register the birth of born abroad children).
thank you that is a great news i was worried about this, can you give me some official link on this please?

thanks

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:55 pm
by EUsmileWEallsmile

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:55 pm
by EUsmileWEallsmile
moved to the correct forum section.

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:43 am
by Directive/2004/38/EC
ravii wrote:Your baby is dual national,i.e,British and Pakistani.
No, likely three nationalities: British, Pakistani, and Hungarian.

Hungarian: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_ ... d_adoption

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:38 am
by hunpak
Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:
ravii wrote:Your baby is dual national,i.e,British and Pakistani.
No, likely three nationalities: British, Pakistani, and Hungarian.

Hungarian: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_ ... d_adoption
Wow lucky him/her ;)

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:46 am
by hunpak
Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:
ravii wrote:Your baby is dual national,i.e,British and Pakistani.
No, likely three nationalities: British, Pakistani, and Hungarian.

Hungarian: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_ ... d_adoption
Is there any benefit of having 3 nationalities, British is very useful for travelling abroad andHHungary is same but Pakistan I nationality would be not that useful. Also having 3 nationalities this might create problems while using consulate services is it true?

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:22 pm
by Brigid from Ireland
It can create a problem if you are in a county where you hold citizenship - it is very difficult for the other country of which you are also a citizen to support you.

Eg If a person holding citizenship of Pakistan returned to Pakistan and was jailed, Britain cannot help, even though the young man is also a British citizen.

If a British citizen who was not a citizen of Pakistan was jailed there, Britain would provide assistance.

This has been a problem for some men who visited their parents country and were drafted into the army - they were citizens there also, and had to serve for whatever period was required by the law.

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:43 am
by Directive/2004/38/EC
hunpak wrote:Is there any benefit of having 3 nationalities
Depends on the combination of nationalities... Irish British and French would not be so useful. American, British and Australian might be better. Colombian, Afganistan and Rwanda not so good.

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:31 am
by Plum70
Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:American, British and Australian might be better. Colombian, Afganistan and Rwanda not so good.
Given time the reverse might well be the case!

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:32 pm
by Directive/2004/38/EC
Plum70 wrote:
Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:American, British and Australian might be better. Colombian, Afganistan and Rwanda not so good.
Given time the reverse might well be the case!
I guess it depends on how you are measuring. For now, if they key thing is freedom of movement and settlement, then ABA is good. All depends on how the measuring is being done. And time certainly does change things...

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:24 pm
by hunpak
Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:
hunpak wrote:Is there any benefit of having 3 nationalities
Depends on the combination of nationalities... Irish British and French would not be so useful. American, British and Australian might be better. Colombian, Afganistan and Rwanda not so good.
in my case it is going to be British, Pakistan and Hungarian. i am just trying to figure out if its worth applying or all these citizenships for my baby? or only british is enough?

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:14 pm
by Directive/2004/38/EC
Up to you. Note that only a few countries require you to apply for the citizenship. In most cases you have the citizenship automatically at birth and just have to apply for a passport.