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Urgent: Travel advice for a naturalised child
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:51 am
by veejay
Hello
- * My wife and I are Indian citizens with ILR.
* When we applied for ILR, we did not include our UK born son as I was planning to naturalise him after receipt of ILR
* The naturalization process went fine. My son was registered as a british citizen on 11th Dec
* Unfortunately, my wife and son had to leave for India on a famiily emergency on 7th Dec i.e. before we received the reg certificate. My son travelled on his Indian passport
* I applied for my son's passport as I was in UK and got it by the 20th of December. I sent this to my wife and son who are in India
* QUESTION 1: When they come back, what should she say to immigration authorities in Mumbai airport? Will my son have trouble travelling out of India on his new British passport?
* QUESTION 2: Will they have any trouble at Heathrow immigration?
Please ntoe that my wife is carrying her ILR, it is the son's situation that is an issue
Many thanks for your time and happy new year
Re: Urgent: Travel advice for a naturalised child
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 1:32 pm
by veejay
Bumping this up in the hope that someone will respond.
Re: Urgent: Travel advice for a naturalised child
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:32 pm
by Jambo
Strictly speaking your son passport should have been applied in the country he is present although as you witnessed it is difficult for the Passport Office to know the whereabouts of applicants.
I have no idea about the procedures required in India. You might get an answer in the "Other Countries" section of the forum (I believe it involves getting an exit visa and/or surrendering the passport).
He will have no issue when coming to Heathrow with his British passport.
Re: Urgent: Travel advice for a naturalised child
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:49 am
by veejay
Ok. We successfully reached UK but it was a huge ordeal. I strongly advise anyone contemplating this to never try it.
We went to the airport early as I was fully expecting issues in immigration. At the check in counter (BA), we did not have any problems. Just produced my child's Indian and UK passport and they were fine.
Then went to immigration. Problem started. The officer point blank said that the child cannot travel as Exit permit is needed on UK passport. He maintained that the Indian passport is no longer valid. The officer was extremely professional and courteous and repeatedly mentioned that he was just doing his job by following the directions that he need to follow. He was never rude and was very polite, but still the answer was a firm No. (A part of me was proud that such professionals exist in our govt sector!)
Then we asked to speak to the officer in charge. After a lot of back and forth, finally we got to meet the chief (I think). I showed the citizenship registration certificate, birth certificate, address proof in UK etc., and also the communication from VFS UK that I have 3 month grace period to travel on Indian passport. I believe this made him think a bit - he then mentioned to me that he will check with FRRO and his superiors. He took all of our documents and asked us to wait in a small area near immigration. Again, he was very courteous - offered water etc. to my child. Then came the agonizing wait..........
We waited for close to an hour and he came back with a negative answer. During this one hour, I frantically called VFS UK, High commission of India in London etc. but they were all closed at that time. Then I pleaded with him to talk to FRRO and we kinda got on a conf. call (speaker phone). After that the immigration officer spoke to someone else (no idea who) in private for 5-10 minutes and then came back and told us that he is going to make an exception and allow us to fly out!! He mentioned that he is only doing it because the person-in-question was a minor and we had a strong reason to be in UK (child had a confirmed medical appointment with NHS for a chronic condition the following day).
In summary, the rules are against this type of travel and it was really an ordeal for us to get out of India. This is no fault of Indian immigration authorities but the rules. They are just following rules. In UK immigration, we did not have any issues.
Thanks for people who viewed this post. Also thanks to the one poster who replied.
Re: Urgent: Travel advice for a naturalised child
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:40 pm
by Gols
Phew!!
How Amazing it is, every airport/immigration authority is saying/ doing different thing as per their convenience.
Well finally u made it from mumbai.
veejay now what r u planning regarding your child's Indian PP?
regards