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Naturalisation queries

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:03 pm
by ElWilly
Hi all, I am applying for a British citizenship (naturalization) and I am a bit confused with the ceremony fees payment. My questions are:

1. How are we supposed to pay the fee (£80)?
2. When are we supposed to pay?

In the Master_Fees_Leaflet_2015_07_21.pdf states that the overall fee comprises the fee for handling and processing the application and the citizenship ceremony fee.

Does this mean I have to pay both at the same time? (i.e. using the same payslip that I send with my application form) So for my application it will be: £1005 (processing fee) + £80 (ceremony fee) for a total of £1085

Or does the £1005 already includes the ceremony fee and the processing fee?

I am very confused, please help me.

Best regards.

Re: Ceremony fees

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:55 pm
by noajthan
ElWilly wrote:Hi all, I am applying for a British citizenship (naturalization) and I am a bit confused with the ceremony fees payment. My questions are:

1. How are we supposed to pay the fee (£80)?
2. When are we supposed to pay?

In the Master_Fees_Leaflet_2015_07_21.pdf states that the overall fee comprises the fee for handling and processing the application and the citizenship ceremony fee.

Does this mean I have to pay both at the same time? (i.e. using the same payslip that I send with my application form) So for my application it will be: £1005 (processing fee) + £80 (ceremony fee) for a total of £1085

Or does the £1005 already includes the ceremony fee and the processing fee?

I am very confused, please help me.

Best regards.
As per leaflet: The total amount including the ceremony fee is shown in the chart
So for AN it's currently £1005.

(The separate ceremony fee bit is only of interest if your application fails whereupon you may get that element of the fee refunded to you).

Re: Ceremony fees

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 3:26 pm
by ElWilly
Thanks very much, I understand now.

Regards.

Proof for exercising treaty rights in 5 years

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:25 pm
by ElWilly
Hi all, I have a question with regards to this topic, I found the following information on a website (see below) with regards documentation I need to provide to proof this.

Letter from employer confirming employment, or
P60 tax certificates, or
Documents as proof of pension receiving confirmation. or
Benefits letter which confirms incapacity benefit or job seekers' allowance claimed.

For self-sufficient people
Show evidence of funds through bank statements for the required period of qualification
Proof for comprehensive sickness insurance cover for your family which includes the individual itself.

For students
Education establishment letter confirming the course registration and enrollment for qualifying period
Comprehensive sickness insurance cover proof for student and residing family members.

Now to start with, I am not sure what exercising treaty rights means! Is it just a proof that i've been working for the last 5 years?

About me:

I have been living in England for over 12 years I have only worked the last 4 (I was a post grad student before that with a student visa and family funded)

During those 4 years (2011 - 2015) I had 4 jobs on different companies.

I have a letter from my current employer confirming that I am indeed hired by my current company and have been for the last year (since 08/14)

I have received no pension, no benefits, ever.

Do I still need my P60? or this letter is enough?

Thanks for your help and kind regards.

Will

Re: Naturalisation queries

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:32 pm
by geriatrix
Topic merged

Re: Proof for exercising treaty rights in 5 years

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 5:16 pm
by noajthan
ElWilly wrote:Hi all, I have a question with regards to this topic, I found the following information on a website (see below) with regards documentation I need to provide to proof this.

Letter from employer confirming employment, or
P60 tax certificates, or
Documents as proof of pension receiving confirmation. or
Benefits letter which confirms incapacity benefit or job seekers' allowance claimed.

For self-sufficient people
Show evidence of funds through bank statements for the required period of qualification
Proof for comprehensive sickness insurance cover for your family which includes the individual itself.

For students
Education establishment letter confirming the course registration and enrollment for qualifying period
Comprehensive sickness insurance cover proof for student and residing family members.

Now to start with, I am not sure what exercising treaty rights means! Is it just a proof that i've been working for the last 5 years?

About me:

I have been living in England for over 12 years I have only worked the last 4 (I was a post grad student before that with a student visa and family funded)

During those 4 years (2011 - 2015) I had 4 jobs on different companies.

I have a letter from my current employer confirming that I am indeed hired by my current company and have been for the last year (since 08/14)

I have received no pension, no benefits, ever.

Do I still need my P60? or this letter is enough?

Thanks for your help and kind regards.

Will
The or in the list of requirements means 1 or the other will do.
So, for example, as a worker a letter from an employer is adequate.

As you have had 4 employers you will need 4 letters.
Also a letter from your educational establishment to cover your time as a student.
Note students have to show evidence of CSI too.

fyi - exercising treaty rights (for 5 years) is how a person acquires PR under EU regulations; these are the regulations which apply to you as an EEA national resident in UK.
In a nutshell, an applicant for PR (from EEA) has to be a 'qualified person' in one of the following categories:
worker
jobseeker
student
self-sufficient person
retired/incapacitated

In your case you likely acquired your rights as a student & worker & so you will have to provide the necessary evidence to satisfy HO.

Best of luck.

Re: Naturalisation queries

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:28 am
by ElWilly
Hi, and thanks for the reply, I am not from the European Economic Area, I am from South America. Does this changes things? Please advise.

If so this is probable the mos annoying part of my application as it implies that I have to phone 3 previous employers and ask for letters and presumably await for them to arrive. arggg

Thanks for your help.

Best regards.

Re: Naturalisation queries

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:59 am
by geriatrix
Have you bothered reading Guide AN and Form AN to understand what documentary evidence(s) are required and from whom?

For the 12 years you have lived in UK, what were your immigration categories?

Re: Naturalisation queries

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:24 am
by noajthan
ElWilly wrote:Hi, and thanks for the reply, I am not from the European Economic Area, I am from South America. Does this changes things? Please advise.

If so this is probable the mos annoying part of my application as it implies that I have to phone 3 previous employers and ask for letters and presumably await for them to arrive. arggg

Thanks for your help.

Best regards.
As you asked detailed questions about the EEA route I assumed you were on that route, under EU rules.

If you are not EEA with PR (or applying as a family member of an EEA national) you will need settled status (ILR) in compliance with UK immigration law to apply to naturalise.

You need to go back to basics depending on your actual immigration route.
As suggested above start with form & guidance.