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I am a British citizen by birth, my son was born in 2012 to my girlfriend who is a Philippines national. One of the documents required seems to be "Passports at time of conception", however the mother's passport at the time was lost and a new one was not gotten till around 2 months after conception, would it be ok to submit this passport? We are both living in China, would it better to apply for our son's British passport in China or the Philippines?

Thanks.

What was your son's date of birth?

Are you named as the father on his birth certificate?

Stanislav wrote:I am a British citizen by birth, my son was born in 2012 to my girlfriend who is a Philippines national. One of the documents required seems to be "Passports at time of conception", however the mother's passport at the time was lost and a new one was not gotten till around 2 months after conception, would it be ok to submit this passport? We are both living in China, would it better to apply for our son's British passport in China or the Philippines?

Thanks.

Mabuhay!

Was child born in UK or abroad?
I sense it was probably abroad but it does make a difference so better to be clear.

noajthan wrote:Was child born in UK or abroad?
I sense it was probably abroad but it does make a difference so better to be clear.

See also topic's title.

vinny wrote:

noajthan wrote:Was child born in UK or abroad?
I sense it was probably abroad but it does make a difference so better to be clear.

See also topic's title.

Oops missed that. It didn't register as I read the body.

vinny wrote:What was your son's date of birth?

Are you named as the father on his birth certificate?

2012, he was born in the Philippines.

Yes to your second question.

Would it complicate matters if the mother had been separated from a previous husband?

Stanislav wrote:

vinny wrote:What was your son's date of birth?

Are you named as the father on his birth certificate?

2012, he was born in the Philippines.

Yes to your second question.

Would it complicate matters if the mother had been separated from a previous husband?

Tricky one for the future this too, Filipinos aren't allowed to divorce I believe, so if immigration to UK is planned - going to be somewhat difficult.

Annulment is a possibility but right now our concern is getting our child's passport. Could her marital status affect that even though I am named on the birth certificate?

Stanislav wrote:

vinny wrote:What was your son's date of birth?

Are you named as the father on his birth certificate?

2012, he was born in the Philippines.

Yes to your second question.

Would it complicate matters if the mother had been separated from a previous husband?

The complete birth date in 2012 is important for unmarried fathers.

However, if the child's mother was still legally married, then for the purposes of the British Nationality Act, the child's father is deemed to be the child's mother's husband.

Stanislav wrote:...

Would it complicate matters if the mother had been separated from a previous husband?

No insensitivity intended. In PH there are varying degrees of husband.
Was previous husband a legally married spouse or an informal live-in husband? (who in normal conversation could still be referred to as a 'husband').

Vinny, I have of course the complete birth date but I don't deem it necessary to reveal on here. As long as it was after 2006 it doesn't matter.

Noahthan I'm not sure if they were legally married but they have been separated since 2005 and we have been together since 2007.

My question is, is a CENOMAR a requirement for a child's passport?

noajthan wrote:In PH there are varying degrees of husband.

Fifty shades of grey...errr, husband?

Stanislav wrote:is a CENOMAR a requirement for a child's passport?

You are going to have to translate that. Apart from Noajthan, most people on these forums are not au fait with Filipino legal terminology.

The precise legal status of your significant other's "previous husband" may be relevant to this conversation. You may wish to find out more and post it here for us to advise you better.

Stanislav wrote:Vinny, I have of course the complete birth date but I don't deem it necessary to reveal on here. As long as it was after 2006 it doesn't matter.

Noajthan I'm not sure if they were legally married but they have been separated since 2005 and we have been together since 2007.

My question is, is a CENOMAR a requirement for a child's passport?

A CENOMAR, issued by the NSO, is an official Philippine document certifying whether or not the holder is unmarried
ie CErtificate of NO MArriage

A Cenomar would very useful if not vital to establish without a doubt the existence/legality of any previous marriage in the Philippines.
See https://www.ecensus.com.ph/Default.aspx

For example, a Filipina leaving the country to join a fiancee abroad (on a foreign fiancee visa) is required to present this document in order to obtain an exit stamp & leave the country.
In general terms, it would be useful evidence in connection with any application for a foreign spouse visa too.

To apply for a 1st British passport, when an overseas-born child has been registered as a UK citizen, a child applicant only needs to provide:
registration certificate;
any uncancelled passport;
photos;

See guidance:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... s_4_14.pdf

- Table D specifies any other special requirements;
I see nothing that relates to any checks on marital status of parents.

Stanislav wrote:Vinny, I have of course the complete birth date but I don't deem it necessary to reveal on here. As long as it was after 2006 it doesn't matter.

Sorry, you are absolutely right. I misremembered.

Stanislav wrote:I am a British citizen by birth, my son was born in 2012 to my girlfriend who is a Philippines national. One of the documents required seems to be "Passports at time of conception", however the mother's passport at the time was lost and a new one was not gotten till around 2 months after conception, would it be ok to submit this passport? We are both living in China, would it better to apply for our son's British passport in China or the Philippines?

Thanks.

What happened to your passport application? Did you manage to go through it? Does your child have a BP now? Is he a citizen now?

Would be really grateful for your response. Thank you.

Kathdudette wrote:

Stanislav wrote:I am a British citizen by birth, my son was born in 2012 to my girlfriend who is a Philippines national. One of the documents required seems to be "Passports at time of conception", however the mother's passport at the time was lost and a new one was not gotten till around 2 months after conception, would it be ok to submit this passport? We are both living in China, would it better to apply for our son's British passport in China or the Philippines?

Thanks.

What happened to your passport application? Did you manage to go through it? Does your child have a BP now? Is he a citizen now?

Would be really grateful for your response. Thank you.

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