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NARIC tier help

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:52 am
by Federal
Hey folks,

Apologies if this has been answered already. I'm an EU national with aspirations of going through the naturalisation process (with a 15-year delay). I'm really disappointed with the new NARIC requirement, which essentially replaces a free confirmation with a paid-for service that does exactly the same.

Anyway, I hold an undergraduate and a postgraduate diploma from two UK universities, and I'm not sure, as an EU national, what 'Immigration Tier' I should select from the drop down menu. If I select 'Family, settlement, and nationality', the next sub-menu only has 'Family' and 'Settlement' available.

What do I select?

I saw from other posts that UK degrees are not yet supported by the NARIC. Is this still the case? If so, am I in limbo?

Many thanks

Re: NARIC tier help

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 3:51 pm
by geriatrix
Federal wrote:I hold an undergraduate and a postgraduate diploma from two UK universities,
If you do not have bachelor "degree" level qualification, you'll need to take an approved test.

Re: NARIC tier help

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 12:40 am
by Federal
Hi - apologies, I probably wasn't clear. I do have both a Bachelors (BA Hons) and a Masters (MA)

Re: NARIC tier help

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:34 am
by cs95tdg
Federal wrote:Anyway, I hold an undergraduate and a postgraduate diploma from two UK universities, and I'm not sure, as an EU national, what 'Immigration Tier' I should select from the drop down menu. If I select 'Family, settlement, and nationality', the next sub-menu only has 'Family' and 'Settlement' available.

What do I select?

I saw from other posts that UK degrees are not yet supported by the NARIC. Is this still the case? If so, am I in limbo?
I'm not sure what type of application you are trying to make in this instance, but just focusing on the question you have around NARIC, this is only required if you hold a foreign degree. If both your bachelors and masters degrees were taught in English and from the UK, the degree certificate alone will suffice.

Re: NARIC tier help

Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 4:13 pm
by Federal
This is for an upcoming citizenship application.

I would hope that the degree itself would suffice, but HO guidance states:
4. If your degree was taught or researched in English
You can prove your knowledge of English by having a degree that was taught or researched in English.

You’ll need your original degree certificate and one of the following:

an original letter or certificate from UK NARIC confirming the equivalent level of your degree, plus an official letter from your university with your name and degree confirming that your degree was taught in English
an original and official certificate from your university confirming the degree was taught or researched in a majority English-speaking country (except Canada)
So I need one of the above, probably not the NARIC letter, but maybe the 'official certificate' that confirms that my UK degree was taught in English.

There is no provision for UK degrees, so I'm literally groping int he dark.

Re: NARIC tier help

Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 5:00 pm
by geriatrix
That refers to (majority English-speaking) countries other than UK.

Reading FAQs - English language requirements for naturalisation should help.

Re: NARIC tier help

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 12:23 am
by Federal
Thanks for this. I may be missing it, but according to the FAQ, UK degree holders are in limbo. It clearly states that
UK qualification - The new V&NS does not allow you to input "UK" as the country of study.

Academic qualification - You don't need any document from NARIC. If in doubt, check with NARIC if they can issue ELA for a UK academic qualification.
Under the ELA site ( http://www.naric.org.uk/naric/individua ... sment.aspx ) , the online application that leads from it (http://www.naric.org.uk/naric/individua ... ister.aspx ) has no provision for ... ELA inquiries (!). If you then select the visas & immigration category, you're left with the two options outlined in my earlier post.

So, the FAQ says that I don't need a NARIC document (nor an ELA then), but UKVI says that I need a certificate proving that my degree was taught in English.

Common logic would dictate that the degree itself is sufficient, but this would contravene UKVI guidance. Unfortunately, that very same guidance points to a dead end.

Re: NARIC tier help

Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 1:50 pm
by Federal
An update: Just called NARIC. They do NOT assess UK qualifications, so they wouldn't be able to give me a letter or an ELA.

Re: NARIC tier help

Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 2:42 pm
by ohara
Why are you using NARIC if you did your degree in the UK :?:

The degree certificate itself is proof enough.

Re: NARIC tier help

Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 2:49 pm
by cs95tdg
Federal wrote:An update: Just called NARIC. They do NOT assess UK qualifications, so they wouldn't be able to give me a letter or an ELA.
That's what I inferred in my previous response. I.e. If you have a UK qualification, then there would be no requirement for a comparability statement. If it helps, my personal experience, I applied in November last year with a UK degree certificate alone. No PBS printout was requested and certainly no NARIC letter. The NCS staff also mentioned that those were only required if you held a foreign degree.

Re: NARIC tier help

Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 3:10 pm
by Federal
Thanks guys - I suspected as much, but like I said, Home Office guidance on the matter does not make it clear. I'll consider the matter resolved