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Blueinch wrote:
1.3 I am EEA national, I went through AN Booklet, and unfortunately I haven't found anything useful there. Do I need to fill this point?
1.24 It's asked to provide "father’s name". Is it fair to assume, that they mean "Full name"?
2.4 It's asked to state the number and issue date of "Permanent Residence card". Do they need specifically PR Card details? Do I need to apply for it, if I don't have it, or DCPR can replace it?
3.1-3.5 These questions are about penalties and criminal-related things. Once I was caught for speeding, and I went through the Speed Awareness Course, thus there is no points on my license. Do I need to mention anything about it in any of these points?
6.17 Question about "biometric enrolement". Is it related to EU nationals? Do I need to sign this declaration?
7.5 If I haven't provided a photocopy of my spouse’s or civil partner’s passport, is it fair to assume that I don't need to tick this box?
7.7 Who is this point related to? My best guess, I have to ignore it.

Questions based on Supporting Documents requirements:
1. With my Life In The UK test I used Driving License as an ID. I trust, I have to use it as my evidence of identity to support my AN form too. I was wondering, shall I add my ID card or passport, as an additional support document?
2. In Section 3 they mention "letters from employers, educational establishments" – Would employment contracts and university-related letters count?
3. In Section 4 they mention "Permanent Residence card" again. As I don't have it, can it be replaced by DCPR?

Any help is much appreciated.

Thank you.

Blueinch wrote:Thank you for all the answers!

Few additional questions:

1. In section 5, they are asking to write name and d.o.b. on the back of my photo and then "glue" it in the provided space... Did I get it right? I reckon, if I glue it, they won't see anything written on the back - doesn't seem to make sense.That's ok - photo can become detached then it can be matched to application - glue stick is fine

2. About my employment:
2.1 In AN Form question 1.45, they are asking about my occupation. Which time frame does Home Office look at: the year straight after DCPR acquisition (in my case, 2014) or the current?This is your job at time of application.
2.2 My current employment contract is running out in the end of December. In the same question (1.45), shall I state something like "unemployed/seeking job opportunities"? Or is it better to get back into employment first, and then send AN form with occupation filled with a new employer?employment isn't a condition for BC - if unemployed at time if application leave 1.45 blank and explain employment gap in section 1.50

3. About referees:
3.1 Can I use referee, who have recently entered retirement (ex-teacher)? I would say yes.
3.2 Can I use referee, who lived in the UK for many years, but got British citizenship just a couple of years ago? Yes
3.3 Just to double-check, is it absolutely fine, if one of the the referees is the UK resident, but haven't got the citizenship yet? Yes - one of the referee doesn't have to be BC - read form instructions.

One again, thank you very much in advance.

Blueinch wrote: I received my DCPR, which states the date of issue "12 Dec 2016". Together with the document, there was a supporting letter stating "Date you acquired permanent residence status: 28 August 2014".

Blueinch wrote:There are few things that seem obvious to me, but I still would like to double-check them with you, dear experts...

On December 2016, I received my DCPR, which states the date of issue "12 Dec 2016". Together with the document, there was a supporting letter stating "Date you acquired permanent residence status: 28 August 2014".

Q1. Is it fair to assume that I can apply for British citizenship straight away, without holding this permanent residence status for the next 12 months until 12 Dec 2017?

In question 2.4 of AN Form, they are asking to put down PR Card number. We already figured out that in my case it has to be DCPR number.

Q2. Where on DCPR is that number located? Is it in the top right corner, starting with "UKF 0123456"?

On Become a British citizen page of gov.uk website, in the requirements list, among the other things they say that I "must usually have spent no more than 90 days outside the UK in the last 12 months".

Q3. Is it fair to assume that they are talking about the 12 months period straight after DCPR was acquired (in my case, Aug 2014 - Aug 2015)? Or is it about the most recent 12 months after DCPT was received (Dec 2016 - Dec 2017)? None of the above - this is counting back from your application date. You are not proving PR again.

If all good, I am planning to use NCS. My understanding is that I will have to submit:
1. Filled AN Formyes
2. Supporting Documentsyes
3. Cash or bank card payment got Naturalizationchecque or card only no cash!

Q4. Can you please give me a rough idea, of the process I will have to follow in NCS?

I trust at the same place (NCS), I can apply for British passport and Citizenship Ceremony as well.

Q5. Is there a separate form for British Passport and/or Citizenship Ceremony? On gov.uk website I found only an Online application for passport.passport form from post office - ceremony is arranged by your council, no separate application.

I believe, submitting all the necessary documents to NCS is the last step (speaking of filling forms/papers) from my side to become a British Citizen.

Q6. Can you please confirm that? Not quite - within about two week you will get a request to submit your biometrics, even if you have given them before!

Thank you very much in advance.

secret.simon wrote:

Blueinch wrote: I received my DCPR, which states the date of issue "12 Dec 2016". Together with the document, there was a supporting letter stating "Date you acquired permanent residence status: 28 August 2014".

That is a very useful piece of information and seems to be a change from previous Home Office procedure. Can anybody else getting a DCPR in the past few months confirm that the letter accompanying the DCPR also states the date of acquisition of PR?

alterhase58 wrote:some responses from me - others may enlarge on points.

Blueinch wrote: On Become a British citizen page of gov.uk website, in the requirements list, among the other things they say that I "must usually have spent no more than 90 days outside the UK in the last 12 months".

Q3. Is it fair to assume that they are talking about the 12 months period straight after DCPR was acquired (in my case, Aug 2014 - Aug 2015)? Or is it about the most recent 12 months after DCPT was received (Dec 2016 - Dec 2017)? None of the above - this is counting back from your application date. You are not proving PR again.

noajthan wrote: Yes, you can travel after submission but do stick around in case of follow up questions - oh, and to enrol your biometrics.

Blueinch wrote:

noajthan wrote: Yes, you can travel after submission but do stick around in case of follow up questions - oh, and to enrol your biometrics.

Thank you for the answer. Traveling is not my main target in the following months. I am more concerned about this requirement: "spent no more than 90 days outside the UK in the last 12 months" (https://www.gov.uk/becoming-a-british-citizen). Are they talking about the future or the past 12 months?

In 2016, March till August, I studied abroad. It is more than 90 days outside the UK, if we take the past 12 months. Does it affect the above mentioned requirement?

Thank you.

noajthan wrote: Its the last 12 months before date of application.
No more than 90 days out in those 12 months.

You must be the son of the family that your father was posting about previously.
You will see in past posts on your case that I was repeatedly urging him to get you back from China or wherever it was; this was to help you to comply with the two sets of differing PR and naturalisation requirements.

Blueinch wrote:On the website they say "you must usually have spent no more than 90 days outside the UK in the last 12 months". Seems there is a room for exceptions.

Thank you.

secret.simon wrote:

Blueinch wrote: I received my DCPR, which states the date of issue "12 Dec 2016". Together with the document, there was a supporting letter stating "Date you acquired permanent residence status: 28 August 2014".

That is a very useful piece of information and seems to be a change from previous Home Office procedure. Can anybody else getting a DCPR in the past few months confirm that the letter accompanying the DCPR also states the date of acquisition of PR?

noajthan wrote:

Blueinch wrote:On the website they say "you must usually have spent no more than 90 days outside the UK in the last 12 months". Seems there is a room for exceptions.

Thank you.

There is discretion.
The AN guide covers it quite well. (Website should not be relied upon, its just edited highlights).

Blueinch wrote:

noajthan wrote:

Blueinch wrote:On the website they say "you must usually have spent no more than 90 days outside the UK in the last 12 months". Seems there is a room for exceptions.

Thank you.

There is discretion.
The AN guide covers it quite well. (Website should not be relied upon, its just edited highlights).

Looks like I can have 101-179 days outside the UK 12 months prior application... AN Booklet (p.9) states that:

"Total number of absences normally disregarded only if all other requirements are met and:

a) you have demonstrated links with the UK through presence of family, and established home and substantial part of your estate."

Few questions on the above quote:
1. In the first part, where they talk about "all other requirements", do they mean legal and residence requirements mentioned on pages 4-5 (AN Booklet)? E.g. my age has to be 18+, Life In The UK certificate, etc...
2. What do they mean by "presence of family" and "established home and substantial part of your estate"? Was it already assessed as a part of DCPR application process? Shall I provide any additional evidence with my Application for Naturalization?

Personally I am single, thus no own family. However, my mother lives in the UK, which can be considered as family - right? We have been here permanently since 2008. Hopefully, I am on a safe side...

Looking forward for some feedback, please.

Thank you.

• house, land, property;
  business and/or business interests;
  major assets;

noajthan wrote:This chimes with the AN guidance.

Dealing with HO certainly confirms you are 'alive' doesn't it.

Blueinch wrote: On a separate note, two questions to double-check other things:
1. Am I right to think that Life in the UK doesn't expire? Correct
2. Am I right to think that holding Document Certifying Permanent Residence I am on a safe side in relation to my rights of staying and working in the UK after Brexit goes in full swing?No changes to the regulations have been enacted, Article 50 has yet to be triggered, expected 31.3.2017. No one knows what the rules will be once UK has left the EU - though one should hope that rights gained in the past will not be changed retropectively.

Thank you.

alterhase58 wrote:

Blueinch wrote: 2. Am I right to think that holding Document Certifying Permanent Residence I am on a safe side in relation to my rights of staying and working in the UK after Brexit goes in full swing?No changes to the regulations have been enacted, Article 50 has yet to be triggered, expected 31.3.2017. No one knows what the rules will be once UK has left the EU - though one should hope that rights gained in the past will not be changed retropectively.