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Child born outside the UK
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:46 am
by yvesempeno
HI,
I need some clarification on what i need to do or need to have after having my baby born outside the UK.
My baby was born 3 weeks ago here in The Philippines, and I am a British Citizen who was born outside the UK. I have a British Passport and I have been living in the UK for the past 15 years.
My question is what is my next move? Do i register my baby as a British Citizen born overseas or do i apply for a British Passport for her first?
Regards
Yves
Re: Child born outside the UK
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:51 am
by vinny
Register under
3(2) possible.
Re: Child born outside the UK
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:02 am
by yvesempeno
Thanks for the reply, would i be able to get a British passport first? then register my daughter?
Regards
Yves
Re: Child born outside the UK
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:01 am
by vinny
No. Register first, then passport.
Re: Child born outside the UK
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:50 am
by yvesempeno
Cheers!
I'm confused as what is in Section 6 - Biometric enrollment.
Regards
Yves
Re: Child born outside the UK
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:55 am
by CR001
All applicants have to enroll their biometrics (fingerprints and digital photo taken). For children under 6 years of age, it is only the digital photo.
Re: Child born outside the UK
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:29 pm
by secret.simon
yvesempeno wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:46 am
I am a British Citizen who was born outside the UK.
How did you become a British citizen?
Were you born to a British parent outside the UK?
Or were you born outside the UK, moved to the UK and acquired British citizenship by naturalisation?
Re: Child born outside the UK
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:51 pm
by yvesempeno
secret.simon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:29 pm
yvesempeno wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:46 am
I am a British Citizen who was born outside the UK.
How did you become a British citizen?
Were you born to a British parent outside the UK?
Or were you born outside the UK, moved to the UK and acquired British citizenship by naturalisation?
I moved to the UK in 2002 and become a Citizen through naturalization.
Regards
Yves
Re: Child born outside the UK
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:56 pm
by vinny
Ah. Thanks to secret.simon for asking a very significant question. The answer changed my incorrect assumption that you were British by descent.
Child is therefore
automatically British by descent.
Child cannot register, but may apply for a
British passport directly.
Re: Child born outside the UK
Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 12:09 pm
by yvesempeno
Wow!
Thanks for all the help that we are getting guys/gals!
So now i just apply for my daughter's British Passport through the website?
Regards
Yves
Re: Child born outside the UK
Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 12:50 pm
by yvesempeno
Follow up sorry i do not know how to edit a post.
So first i need to get a non-British passport for my daughter?
Thanks
Yves
Re: Child born outside the UK
Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 1:26 pm
by CR001
No, you can apply for a British passport directly.
Re: Child born outside the UK
Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 2:16 pm
by yvesempeno
If it's not too much to ask can someone please help me with what supporting documents would i need for my daughter?
Regards
Yves
Re: Child born outside the UK
Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:18 pm
by secret.simon
Were you naturalised before the birth of your daughter?
Were you married to the mother of your daughter at the time of her birth? If not, was she married to anybody else?
If you were married to the mother of your daughter at the time of her birth, the documents needed are
a) Your Naturalisation certificate
b) The certificate of your marriage to the mother of your daughter
c) Your daughter's birth certificate listing you as the father
If not married to the mother of your daughter at the time of birth, when was your daughter born? If after 10th September 2015, you will need a DNA test certificate stating that you are the biological father of your daughter.
There may be issues if the mother was married to somebody else at the time of birth of your daughter.
Re: Child born outside the UK
Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:49 pm
by CR001
secret.simon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:18 pm
Were you naturalised before the birth of your daughter?
Were you married to the mother of your daughter at the time of her birth? If not, was she married to anybody else?
If you were married to the mother of your daughter at the time of her birth, the documents needed are
a) Your Naturalisation certificate
b) The certificate of your marriage to the mother of your daughter
c) Your daughter's birth certificate listing you as the father
If not married to the mother of your daughter at the time of birth, when was your daughter born? If after 10th September 2015, you will need a DNA test certificate stating that you are the biological father of your daughter.
There may be issues if the mother was married to somebody else at the time of birth of your daughter.
OP stated in opening post that baby was born 3 weeks ago.
Re: Child born outside the UK
Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:23 pm
by yvesempeno
CR001 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:49 pm
secret.simon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:18 pm
Were you naturalised before the birth of your daughter?
Were you married to the mother of your daughter at the time of her birth? If not, was she married to anybody else?
If you were married to the mother of your daughter at the time of her birth, the documents needed are
a) Your Naturalisation certificate
b) The certificate of your marriage to the mother of your daughter
c) Your daughter's birth certificate listing you as the father
If not married to the mother of your daughter at the time of birth, when was your daughter born? If after 10th September 2015, you will need a DNA test certificate stating that you are the biological father of your daughter.
There may be issues if the mother was married to somebody else at the time of birth of your daughter.
OP stated in opening post that baby was born 3 weeks ago.
Many thanks again for the prompt reply.
Yes my daughter was born 3 weeks ago, and i have been married to her mother since last year.
Those 3 are the only supporting documents i need? Because it is very confusing on the guide which supporting documents i would need to apply for my daughter's passport.
Regards
Yves
Re: Child born outside the UK
Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:55 am
by JAJ
It will likely be a lot simpler to get the child a British consular birth certificate and then use that document to get a British passport.
https://www.gov.uk/register-a-birth
Re: Child born outside the UK
Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 5:39 am
by yvesempeno
JAJ wrote: ↑Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:55 am
It will likely be a lot simpler to get the child a British consular birth certificate and then use that document to get a British passport.
https://www.gov.uk/register-a-birth
Thanks, but some people are saying that i should apply for the British Passport first?
Regards
Yves
Re: Child born outside the UK
Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:15 am
by vinny
A
consular birth
registration certificate is optional. However, it's another layer of documents, possibly helping to protect against future problems that some
Surprised Brits may face.
Re: Child born outside the UK
Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:31 am
by yvesempeno
So what is the best thing for me to do?
Apply for the British Passport of my daughter?
or
Register her birth outside the UK?
Can i please have help on which supporting documents i would need?
Many Thanks
Yves
Re: Child born outside the UK
Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 5:57 pm
by Richard W
yvesempeno wrote: ↑Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:31 am
Apply for the British Passport of my daughter?
or
Register her birth outside the UK?
You can try doing both, but it depends on which set of documents is more difficult to obtain. It may need to be your wife who should submit the passport application on behalf of your daughter. Do you live in the Philippines? Your opening post implies not.
yvesempeno wrote: ↑Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:31 am
Can i please have help on which supporting documents i would need?
Follow JAJ's link for the consular registration of the birth.
For the passport application, try googling the process to apply for a Btritish passport, and at first restrict your attention to the site ".gov.uk". You may need to look at some Philippines-specific sites for interpretation of the documents required.
Re: Child born outside the UK
Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:58 pm
by JAJ
It would be recommended to get the consular birth certificate first, then apply for a British passport.
A consular birth certificate can be used as evidence of British citizenship for passport purposes.
Re: Child born outside the UK
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:49 pm
by yvesempeno
Thanks for the many replies!
Would it be ideal to register her birth here in The Philippines as i am still here with my family, or do it when i get back to the UK?
Kind Regards
Yves