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British Passport Application- ILR one parent

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:46 pm
by jackman81
Dear Experts,

I was granted an ILR visa in May 2017 (through Tier 2 general visa). My son was born in Apr 2015 and he has been registered as Tier 2 dependent since his birth. The dependent visa expires in June 2018. I have changed jobs in Jan 2018

My questions:
1. Can I apply for my son's British passport while my wife is yet to get ILR visa (in Feb 2018)?
2. Which set of application form is required for my son?
3. What supporting documents are required for my son's application ?
4. will my job change have any impact on the application? (considering that my previous Tier 2 sponsor would have cancelled the sponsorship after I received my ILR)

Appreciate your help in this regard.

Re: British Passport Application- ILR one parent

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:01 am
by vinny
1. If son was born in the UK, then he is entitled to register as a British citizen.
2. MN1.
3. See form.
4. No.

Re: British Passport Application- ILR one parent

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:56 pm
by jackman81
Thank you. Much Appreciated

MN1- faster Route- NCS or NDRS & JCAP query

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:08 pm
by jackman81
Dear experts,

1. Which is a faster route for MN1 application approval- NCS or NDRS?
NCS is a offline MN1 application submitted via NCS
NDRS is an online MN1 application submitted via NCS/NDRS

2. Has JCAP service been withdrawn from the councils?

Thanks.

Re: MN1- faster Route- NCS or NDRS & JCAP query

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:01 am
by plabo
jackman81 wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:08 pm
Dear experts,

1. Which is a faster route for MN1 application approval- NCS or NDRS?
NCS is a offline MN1 application submitted via NCS
NDRS is an online MN1 application submitted via NCS/NDRS

Online applications appear to be going faster through decision times.

2. Has JCAP service been withdrawn from the councils?

No, some councils are accepting both online and paper forms still.

Thanks.

Re: MN1- faster Route- NCS or NDRS & JCAP query

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:33 pm
by jackman81
IS JCAP necessarily an offline application?
i.e. if I opt for JCAP do I have to submit a printed copy of the filled MN1 form (Termed NCS) or can I do it online(Termed NDRS) as well?
Thank you in advance.

Separate passport application Vs JCAP- faster route?

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:18 pm
by jackman81
Hi Experts/members,

I am applying for my son's BC and passport under section 1(3) , MN1.(child's age 3 years)

Looking at the JCAP application through NCS, is it better to apply via NDRS and then separately for passport after registration certificate is received ? It looks like JCAP timelines are over 3 months and there is no seamless comms between UKBA and HMPO?

Any suggestion will be hugely appreciated as we need to travel in mid-April

Thanks & regards

Re: Separate passport application Vs JCAP- faster route?

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:35 pm
by bruteforce
I would say the processing time is pretty much same these days but I would still go with applying for passport saperately, through post office check and send or even online.

Re: MN1- faster Route- NCS or NDRS & JCAP query

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:46 pm
by plabo
jackman81 wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:33 pm
IS JCAP necessarily an offline application?
i.e. if I opt for JCAP do I have to submit a printed copy of the filled MN1 form (Termed NCS) or can I do it online(Termed NDRS) as well?
Thank you in advance.
Use JCAP for printed MN1
Use NDRS for online MN1

Hope it is simple now.

Re: Separate passport application Vs JCAP- faster route?

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:50 pm
by plabo
bruteforce wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:35 pm
I would say the processing time is pretty much same these days but I would still go with applying for passport saperately, through post office check and send or even online.
Diasgree.

NDRS is pretty fast now. Apply for passport at same time to avoid hassle later.
jackman81 wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:18 pm
Hi Experts/members,

I am applying for my son's BC and passport under section 1(3) , MN1.(child's age 3 years)

Looking at the JCAP application through NCS, is it better to apply via NDRS and then separately for passport after registration certificate is received ? It looks like JCAP timelines are over 3 months and there is no seamless comms between UKBA and HMPO?

Any suggestion will be hugely appreciated as we need to travel in mid-April

Thanks & regards
Better to apply onlne and then use NDRS and submit passport application at same time. If you use paper application/NCS, it highly highly unlikely you will have British passport in tme for your travel in April. It is a different story altogether if your child already has a visa to return back to the UK.

Re: Separate passport application Vs JCAP- faster route?

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:23 pm
by jackman81
Thank You Plabo/ Bruteforce

I guess there is a widespread confusion on NCS, NDRS and JCAP. This is my understanding
NCS + JCAP = Offline MN1 printed form + Passport printed form
NDRS + JCAP = Online MN1 printed form + Passport printed form

quite naturally, the online mode should be faster. But, the question is: Does a joint passport application along with MN1 adds to the complexity of comms between UKVI and HMPO leading to longer timescales of approval?

Re: MN1- faster Route- NCS or NDRS & JCAP query

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:43 pm
by makky86
jackman81 wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:08 pm
Dear experts,

1. Which is a faster route for MN1 application approval- NCS or NDRS?
NCS is a offline MN1 application submitted via NCS
NDRS is an online MN1 application submitted via NCS/NDRS

2. Has JCAP service been withdrawn from the councils?

Thanks.
NDRS is an online MN1 application submitted via NCS/NDRS

This option turning to be the best as it will reduce at least 3-4 weeks of your total processing e.g.
  • Pay Online
  • Download Biometric letter online
Even if u apply via NCS it takes 2-3 weeks to get bio-metric letter ! I suggest go for NDRS (you still can keep your orginal docs)

Re: Separate passport application Vs JCAP- faster route?

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:11 pm
by plabo
jackman81 wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:23 pm
Thank You Plabo/ Bruteforce

I guess there is a widespread confusion on NCS, NDRS and JCAP. This is my understanding
NCS + JCAP = Offline MN1 printed form + Passport printed form
NDRS + JCAP = Online MN1 printed form + Passport printed form

quite naturally, the online mode should be faster. But, the question is: Does a joint passport application along with MN1 adds to the complexity of comms between UKVI and HMPO leading to longer timescales of approval?
No!

Re: MN1- faster Route- NCS or NDRS & JCAP query

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:57 am
by shreejiswami
Guys ,

I am in same boat. I am not clear from the response here .

I am using MN1 Online with NDRS
&
Paper passort from ,again NDRS to keep orginal document.

So in nutshell it's JCAP.

My Council has said that they will accept MN1 online and paper Passport form ( obtain from post office). Is this appropriate route ?Given other council are not allowing this route, i don't want to trapped into unique case ?

Or better until MN1 registration through online and then apply passport online?will this be quicker than JCAP above ?

Re: MN1- faster Route- NCS or NDRS & JCAP query

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:36 am
by ariskar
It seems based on recent timelines that online + NDRS is a bit faster and also cheaper in most councils than paper form + NCS (JCAP). All the best!

Re: MN1- faster Route- NCS or NDRS & JCAP query

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:28 am
by Blues1
@shreejiswami

Yes, that is the standard now for JCAP. Online naturalisation application and paper passport form.

Nationality application enquiry

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:04 pm
by jackman81
Dear Experts,

Is there any phone number or contact centre to contact the team dealing with MN1 naturalisation application?


Thanks,

Re: British Passport Application- ILR one parent

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:09 am
by vinny

Re: British Passport Application- ILR one parent

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:17 am
by vinny
Contact UK Visas and Immigration about your application.

Or, if you applied via your council, then make enquiries with them?