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NDRS Question
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:56 pm
by Plzilr
Hi All
I am having problem in answering question of "have you ever made any immigration application before? Now do i need to give them my all previous application details? Because the question keep asking unless you say no and i am able to go on next question
Question is how many previous application i need to mention them ? As i can't remember now all details.
Regards
Re: NDRS Question
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:52 am
by CR001
All applications. If you remember month/year it should be fine.
If you cannot remember, you might need to ask for a subject access request to get the information.
You cannot say "no" as that would be lying.
Re: NDRS Question
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:16 am
by tier2genmisery
I have the same problem
I have about 9 previous applications - I don't remember the case numbers or dates for any of them..
The online form goes on and on... it's really stupid when you think about this from database perspective.
If I give them my passport number, they should already be able to see all previous applications..
Re: NDRS Question
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:28 am
by CR001
It is the applicants responsibility to complete ALL the information asked for in the form. It is not HO's responsibility to run around to get it. They want to make sure that what you state is true and correct and not false based on information they hold about you.
Is the form specifically asking for case ref numbers?? Likely only asking for visa, start and end dates.
Re: NDRS Question
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:21 am
by tier2genmisery
CR001 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:28 am
It is the applicants responsibility to complete ALL the information asked for in the form. It is not HO's responsibility to run around to get it. They want to make sure that what you state is true and correct and not false based on information they hold about you.
Is the form specifically asking for case ref numbers?? Likely only asking for visa, start and end dates.
It asks for case ref, date of application, date when fingerprints taken etc...
Re: NDRS Question
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:24 am
by CR001
tier2genmisery wrote: ↑Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:21 am
CR001 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:28 am
It is the applicants responsibility to complete ALL the information asked for in the form. It is not HO's responsibility to run around to get it. They want to make sure that what you state is true and correct and not false based on information they hold about you.
Is the form specifically asking for case ref numbers?? Likely only asking for visa, start and end dates.
It asks for case ref, date of application, date when fingerprints taken etc...
Please note that most of us don't have access to the online form at all and have never seen it either. Unless you post the full question, we can only guess and look at the paper form, which has differences. There is a question about last biometrics done, but this is different as far as I understand from the immigration applications in the past question.
Re: NDRS Question
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:27 am
by tier2genmisery
CR001 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:24 am
tier2genmisery wrote: ↑Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:21 am
CR001 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:28 am
It is the applicants responsibility to complete ALL the information asked for in the form. It is not HO's responsibility to run around to get it. They want to make sure that what you state is true and correct and not false based on information they hold about you.
Is the form specifically asking for case ref numbers?? Likely only asking for visa, start and end dates.
It asks for case ref, date of application, date when fingerprints taken etc...
Please note that most of us don't have access to the online form at all and have never seen it either. Unless you post the full question, we can only guess and look at the paper form, which has differences. There is a question about last biometrics done, but this is different as far as I understand from the immigration applications in the past question.
The online form also asks about the purpose of each travel abroad in the past 5 years. That's another annoying difference..
Re: NDRS Question
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:45 pm
by epi
Online application requests dates and case number for previous applications indeed, but this information is not compulsory and you can leave it blank. However, I would suggest to request your immigration history from HO if you are missing a lot of details.
Re: NDRS Question
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:50 pm
by tier2genmisery
epi wrote: ↑Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:45 pm
Online application requests dates and case number for previous applications indeed, but this information is not compulsory and you can leave it blank. However, I would suggest to request your immigration history from HO if you are missing a lot of details.
Exactly my point
They are asking for things they know already..
Re: NDRS Question
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 1:47 pm
by Plzilr
i am not sure as when i see the Paper application form there is no such question at all above previous application history. But in the online they are asking this question continuously
"Have you had made any previous immigration application"
unless you say no then you can go to next question otherwise you complete the details and again question pops again now it doesn't even say how many you can enter if i have 12 applications in past so i can't put in all . So i believe papaer base application form is way better in terms of simplicity.
Re: NDRS Question
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:55 pm
by tier2genmisery
Plzilr wrote: ↑Tue Jul 24, 2018 1:47 pm
i am not sure as when i see the Paper application form there is no such question at all above previous application history. But in the online they are asking this question continuously
"Have you had made any previous immigration application"
unless you say no then you can go to next question otherwise you complete the details and again question pops again now it doesn't even say how many you can enter if i have 12 applications in past so i can't put in all . So i believe papaer base application form is way better in terms of simplicity.
completely agree
it is impossible for me to provide all that detail and avoid accidentally lying to HO without a formal information request which slows things down massively and adds another unnecessary level of complexity
It is basically me sending an application to them, to get data that only they have about me only to give it back to them...
Re: NDRS Question
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:18 pm
by angel25
Just to let you know when I applied i only metioned last two applications I made not all of them. Same with employment history only mentioned last 6 years as I couldn't remember the exact dates.
Still got approved!!