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Knowledge of the English language
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:01 pm
by wonderer98
In the new naturalisation online application there is this question:
Knowledge of the English language
Have you met the requirement to qualify for settlement on or after 28th October 2013? (Required)
Applicants who applied for, and obtained, settlement on or after the 28th October 2013 using an English language qualification at level B1 or above can use this as evidence of their knowledge of English language. However if this qualification was not used and accepted for their settlement application, it cannot be used for this application.
Can someone please explain in clear language?
The way I unerstand it: I pass Life in the UK on 1/1/2019, tick yes to this question and I am OK.
Re: Knowledge of the English language
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:20 pm
by johnhkg
wonderer98 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:01 pm
In the new naturalisation online application there is this question:
Knowledge of the English language
Have you met the requirement to qualify for settlement on or after 28th October 2013? (Required)
Applicants who applied for, and obtained, settlement on or after the 28th October 2013 using an English language qualification at level B1 or above can use this as evidence of their knowledge of English language. However if this qualification was not used and accepted for their settlement application, it cannot be used for this application.
Can someone please explain in clear language?
The way I unerstand it: I pass Life in the UK on 1/1/2019, tick yes to this question and I am OK.
This does not have anything to do with the Life in UK test, which is valid indefinitely.
The English language requirement referred to is the B1 English test in speaking and listening. Usually a certificate is valid for 2 years only. They will accept an older qualification if it was successfully used since 28/10/2013, e.g. to apply for ILR.
Re: Knowledge of the English language
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:45 pm
by wonderer98
So if I have graduated from UK University in 2011 do I say "yes" and I am ok?
Re: Knowledge of the English language
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 4:05 pm
by CR001
wonderer98 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:45 pm
So if I have graduated from UK University in 2011 do I say "yes" and I am ok?
Yes if you have a UK degree and you will need to submit your degree cert as proof.
Re: Knowledge of the English language
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 4:22 pm
by wonderer98
I figured it out - I had to answer "no" to this question then follow the form and provide Degree Certificate as proof when sending documents.
Proof of living in the UK
Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:34 pm
by wonderer98
In Naturalisation online application 1 required piece of the evidence is:
Proof of living in the UK:
If you are an EEA National, you need to include letters from employers, educational establishments, or other Government Departments indicating your presence in the United Kingdom during the relevant period.
Has anyone just sent e.g. letter confirming employment for the past 5-6 years till now in one company?
Re: Proof of living in the UK
Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:04 pm
by CR001
Re: Proof of living in the UK
Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:22 pm
by alterhase58
wonderer98 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:34 pm
In Naturalisation online application 1 required piece of the evidence is:
Proof of living in the UK:
If you are an EEA National, you need to include letters from employers, educational establishments, or other Government Departments indicating your presence in the United Kingdom during the relevant period.
Has anyone just sent e.g. letter confirming employment for the past 5-6 years till now in one company?
That's acceptable - for my application I included a letter covering ten years with the same employer (although I worked/work for them much longer than that) - no issue - and you don't need to provide P60s.
Evidence DCPR confusion
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:02 pm
by wonderer98
When applying for Naturalisation ONLINE do I need to send either
1. a letter from the Home Office (that includes the date of acquiring PR) - OR -
2. a letter from the Home Office and Document Certifying Permanent Residence
I asking because ONLINE Naturalisation form says
proof of freedom from immigration time restrictions
You must provide one of the following documents:
your passport showing you are able to remain permanently in the UK
other (for example, a letter from the Home Office, your BRP card or other proof of exemption from immigration control)
which to me sounds like a letter only.
However, AN Guide pages 14-16 state
The Home Office letter by which you were given permission to remain
permanently in the UK
AND
A document certifying permanent residence or a permanent residence card
issued by the Home Office
Followed from all this - what happens to Document Certifying Permanent Residence (DCPR) after Naturalised - especially if I do not send it in?
I know you have to return BRP (Biometric Residence Permit) according to AN Guide page 22
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... _2018_.pdf
Re: Proof of living in the UK
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:09 pm
by CR001
Re: Evidence DCPR confusion
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:28 pm
by wonderer98
I think I can answer my own question. In the online application there is a question
Are you either:
a) An EEA national who has been issued with a document certifying permanent residence
b) A family member of an EEA national who has been issued with a permanent residence card
Once it's answered "YES" you must "Enter your permanent residence card number" and a new list of required evidence appears:
You must include your:
1. passport or EEA national identity card
2. UK permanent residence card
3. evidence of freedom from immigration time restrictions
I understand that I need to send 3 things
1. passport
2. DCPR
3. Letter from Home Office with "Date acquired permanent residence status"
Right?
Re: Evidence DCPR confusion
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:08 pm
by cryvate
wonderer98 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:28 pm
I think I can answer my own question. In the online application there is a question
Are you either:
a) An EEA national who has been issued with a document certifying permanent residence
b) A family member of an EEA national who has been issued with a permanent residence card
Once it's answered "YES" you must "Enter your permanent residence card number" and a new list of required evidence appears:
You must include your:
1. passport or EEA national identity card
2. UK permanent residence card
3. evidence of freedom from immigration time restrictions
I understand that I need to send 3 things
1. passport
2. DCPR
3. Letter from Home Office with "Date acquired permanent residence status"
Right?
I am fairly certain the online application is wrong and the 'evidence of freedom from immigration time restrictions' is not required in this case. If you read the paper form, it says under supporting documents for section 5:
SECTION 5 Evidence of freedom from immigration time restrictions:required for all applicants
except those covered by SECTION 4 above
Section 4 involves PR. In supporting documents for section 4 it says:
... or their non-EEA direct family members ...
So dependents are allowed as well to use just the permanent residence (and a matching passport) for 2. and 3.
Re: Evidence DCPR confusion
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:33 am
by wonderer98
cryvate - I think you are right
Passport online application - countersignatory needed?
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:43 pm
by wonderer98
When I apply online from inside the UK for a passport do I need a countersignatory?
If so, when? There is no mention of that when I did a mock-up passport application. What is the process?
Re: Passport online application - countersignatory needed?
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:45 pm
by CR001
When I apply online from inside the UK for a passport do I need a countersignatory?
Yes.
If so, when? There is no mention of that when I did a mock-up passport application. What is the process?
The online form will likely have a page for it. The paper form clearly has a page where they sign.
PR of different country
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:25 am
by wonderer98
Is holding a Permanent Resident Status in Poland an obstacle to obtaining British Citizenship?
Re: PR of different country
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:33 am
by alterhase58
wonderer98 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:25 am
Is holding a Permanent Resident Status in Poland an obstacle to obtaining British Citizenship?
No - as long as you comply withe the AN requirement, including holding PR in the UK.
Redundancy
Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:12 pm
by wonderer98
Is redundancy a problem when applying for Citizenship?
Re: Redundancy
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:16 am
by alterhase58
wonderer98 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:12 pm
Is redundancy a problem when applying for Citizenship?
No - economic activity as such is not a requirement for naturalisation.
Redundancy dates
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:09 pm
by wonderer98
When a person applies for Citizenship which date should that person put as end of employment due to redundancy?
1. Last working day before Garden Leave - e.g. 01.02.2019
2. Last day on Payroll e.g. 01.05.2019?
Re: Redundancy dates
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:12 pm
by alterhase58
wonderer98 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:09 pm
When a person applies for Citizenship which date should that person put as end of employment due to redundancy?
1. Last working day before Garden Leave - e.g. 01.02.2019
2. Last day on Payroll e.g. 01.05.2019?
If you are still in employment at the time of application you should state "to date" (garden leave is just a contractual agreement).
Otherwise your last day as per termination agreement (if you have one?), garden leave is part of that agreement or your employment contract - therefore option 2.
I work for 2 employers - how to put that in Naturalisation online application?
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:33 pm
by wonderer98
I work for 2 employers - how to put that in Naturalisation online application?
When I apply for Naturalisation and submit that I work for an employer without an end date - that is fine.
But I do not know how to put that I also work sometimes for another employer - as form asks me for an end date.
Any ideas?
Re: Evidence DCPR confusion
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:42 pm
by wonderer98
When submitting documents from employers do they have validity of only one month?
Re: I work for 2 employers - how to put that in Naturalisation online application?
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:07 am
by alterhase58
wonderer98 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:33 pm
I work for 2 employers - how to put that in Naturalisation online application?
When I apply for Naturalisation and submit that I work for an employer without an end date - that is fine.
But I do not know how to put that I also work sometimes for another employer - as form asks me for an end date.
Any ideas?
I have to pass on this .... never done online ... perhaps explain separately in a note or letter?
When submitting documents from employers do they have validity of only one month?
There is no specific rule on this - not sure where "one month" comes from - clearly the date on the document should relate what you are trying to prove, such as residency.
Proof of living in the UK
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:54 pm
by wonderer98
Has anyone sent just "letters from employers (including start and finish dates)" as proof of living in the UK and got accepted? Without sending Payslips, P60s etc?