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Multiple Applicant in One Application
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:52 pm
by bzhao
Hi,
Hope you are all well.
Both my wife and myself are about to apply for naturalisation (we both have ILR for about 4 years).
As you know, we now need to fill in the application form online. On the web page (before you start to fill in the form), it says you can add more applicants, e.g. family members in the application although each applicant will be assessed separately.
In our case, we could submit one application that contains 2 applicant, i.e. myself and my wife.
Alternatively, we could each submit our own application, so that we do two separate applications each of which contains one applicant.
Are there any differences between those two approaches above? Would suggest us to do take approach one (i.e. one application covering two) or approach two (i.e. two separate applications)?
If we do one applications, can our referees be the same? Or one of the referees is the same.
Thanks a lot in advance.
Re: Multiple Applicant in One Application
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:01 pm
by CR001
It makes no difference. Each applicant is assessed and processed on its own merits.
You can use the same referees either way if they meet the referee requirements.
Re: Multiple Applicant in One Application
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:14 pm
by bzhao
Great. Thanks a lot, CR001.
Previous Immigration Application
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:20 pm
by bzhao
Hi,
This question sounds a bit silly, but...anyway
When I fill in information for the previous immigration applications, it asks "Name in which you made the application". Is that really the case that, I need to put my name there? Or to be precise, the name I used when the previous application was submitted.
It's a bit strange that, they don't ask what type the previous application was. So I just want to make sure that, that question above is not asking the name of the previous application, e.g. Tier 1 or PBS or something.
Thanks.
Other Dependent
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:40 pm
by bzhao
Hi,
My wife and myself are both applying for naturalisation together. There is a question in the online form asking "Do you have any dependents not applying with you?" We have a daughter, but she is a British Citizen already so she is not applying with us.
Shall we say Yes or No to this question? My confusion comes from the term dependent. From immigration perspective, our daughter is not on a dependent VISA, but in reality she is our dependent.
Thanks.
Re: Other Dependent
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:45 pm
by CR001
Topics merged!! Kindly keep all questions on the same application in one topic/thread!
Re: Other Dependent
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:46 pm
by CR001
bzhao wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:40 pm
Hi,
My wife and myself are both applying for naturalisation together. There is a question in the online form asking "Do you have any dependents not applying with you?" We have a daughter, but she is a British Citizen already so she is not applying with us.
Shall we say Yes or No to this question? My confusion comes from the term dependent. From immigration perspective, our daughter is not on a dependent VISA, but in reality she is our dependent.
Thanks.
It asks about a dependent. Not a dependent on a visa. You aren't making for an immigration application. You answer yes.
Re: Other Dependent
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:47 pm
by bzhao
CR001 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:45 pm
Topics merged!! Kindly keep all questions on the same application in one topic/thread!
Sure. Thanks.
Life In The UK
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:48 pm
by bzhao
Hi,
Can I use the Life in the UK certificate which was used for my ILR application nearly 4 years ago for my naturalisation application? Is there any requirement on when the certificate was issued? My certificate is almost 4 years old...
Thanks.
Re: Life In The UK
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 4:09 pm
by CR001
LIUK does NOT expire.
Re: Other Dependent
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 4:10 pm
by CR001
bzhao wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:47 pm
CR001 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:45 pm
Topics merged!! Kindly keep all questions on the same application in one topic/thread!
Sure. Thanks.
Re: Life In The UK
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:56 pm
by bzhao
CR001 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 4:09 pm
LIUK does NOT expire.
Great. Thanks a lot. That's a relief
Btw, I will keep one topic per application.
Re: HMRC Self-Assessment Statement
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:49 pm
by bzhao
Hi,
One more question...
Both myself and my wife are employed and we have payslips, P60s from our employer. Also, we have another source of income from renting, so we also do HMRC Self-Assessment. Do we need to provide the recent HMRC Self-Assessment Statement of Account?
On the AN guide, it says for self-employed applicants, if you don't pay tax through PAYE, then you need to submit the HMRC Self-Assessment Statement. Not sure if we also need to do so.
Thanks a lot.
Kind regards
Re: HMRC Self-Assessment Statement
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:46 pm
by alterhase58
bzhao wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:49 pm
Hi,
One more question...
Both myself and my wife are employed and we have payslips, P60s from our employer. Also, we have another source of income from renting, so we also do HMRC Self-Assessment. Do we need to provide the recent HMRC Self-Assessment Statement of Account?
On the AN guide, it says for self-employed applicants, if you don't pay tax through PAYE, then you need to submit the HMRC Self-Assessment Statement. Not sure if we also need to do so.
Thanks a lot.
Kind regards
As non-EU citizens you won't have to provide details of your employment or income in general - this is about residency. Your passports covering the period with stamps in/out are sufficient.
Re: HMRC Self-Assessment Statement
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:21 pm
by bzhao
alterhase58 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:46 pm
bzhao wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:49 pm
Hi,
One more question...
Both myself and my wife are employed and we have payslips, P60s from our employer. Also, we have another source of income from renting, so we also do HMRC Self-Assessment. Do we need to provide the recent HMRC Self-Assessment Statement of Account?
On the AN guide, it says for self-employed applicants, if you don't pay tax through PAYE, then you need to submit the HMRC Self-Assessment Statement. Not sure if we also need to do so.
Thanks a lot.
Kind regards
As non-EU citizens you won't have to provide details of your employment or income in general - this is about residency. Your passports covering the period with stamps in/out are sufficient.
Great. Thanks a lot for reply. This is very helpful.
Re: Upload document
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:13 pm
by bzhao
Hi all,
I am about to upload documents onto the UKVCAS website.
On the page where you upload files, there are some guidances. One of the items says that,
Scan in Greyscale or Black and white: To help contain the files size to 6MB please scan in ‘Greyscale’ or ‘Black and white’ and not in ‘Colour’. It is also helpful to keep the resolution between 150 dpi (dots per inch) to 300 dpi. This can be achieved by configuring your device by the available ‘Settings’ option, that allows you to choose the file format, colour and the dpi resolution. With this approach, you will be able to scan up to 50 pages per document within the allowed 6 MB limit.
Do I have to scan everything in black and white, even if the size of a file is much less than 6MB? I have all my documents scan in color... and only the passport scans are larger than the limit. I am happy to re-scan those, but not sure if I need to re-do all of them...
Any suggestions are very much appreciated. Thanks a lot.
Re: Life In The UK
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:22 pm
by zimba
That is just a guide. it is not a requirement
Re: Life In The UK
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:29 pm
by bzhao
Zimba wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:22 pm
That is just a guide. it is not a requirement
Thanks a lot, Zimba. Are you saying that, as long as the size of the file does not exceed the limit, those scans in color can still be used? I just wonder make sure that, HO won't have any issues with that...thanks anyway
Re: Life In The UK
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:02 pm
by bzhao
Hi Guru,
Another question...
Is PhD study (with scholarship) classified as employment?
Basically my wife was doing her PhD from 2008 to 2009 summer, and than dropped off. Then from Dec 2009 she started her current employment.
In the Employment Detail section of her application form , I only put in her current employment and don't provide the detail of the PhD experience. The reason for that is, 1) I don't think PhD is an employment and 2) it is out side the 10-year period (because she last bursary was received around April 2009 and then the project terminated in the summer).
Now, the application form has been submitted online two days ago. But I am thinking if not mentioning PhD is the right decision. As we haven't attended out appointment yet (which is on the 11th Sept, two days later), one thing I could do is to explain this in a covering letter. What would you suggest? Am I over thinking? Thanks.
Re: Life In The UK
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:07 pm
by mashayekh_hosein
PhD student is still a student and subject to student visa conditions. It is not working. The PhD bursary is not subject to tax or national insurance. You have made the correct decision not to include it as part of the work history.
Re: Life In The UK
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:37 pm
by bzhao
mashayekh_hosein wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:07 pm
PhD student is still a student and subject to student visa conditions. It is not working. The PhD bursary is not subject to tax or national insurance. You have made the correct decision not to include it as part of the work history.
Thanks a lot
Re: Life In The UK
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:40 pm
by bzhao
Hi all,
We attended the UKVCAS appointment at Croydon this morning. It was quick. They just checked and scanned our current passports. Is that all? They don't check any other original copies at all? We don't need to post anything to any place? Seems easier than previous VISA applications.
Re: Life In The UK
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:08 pm
by CR001
They just checked and scanned our current passports. Is that all? They don't check any other original copies at all?
Its normal.
We don't need to post anything to any place?
No.
Seems easier than previous VISA applications.
You are not applying for a 'visa' now. The whole system changed in November last year on how applications and documents are submitted.
Re: Life In The UK
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:04 pm
by bzhao
CR001 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:08 pm
They just checked and scanned our current passports. Is that all? They don't check any other original copies at all?
Its normal.
We don't need to post anything to any place?
No.
Seems easier than previous VISA applications.
You are not applying for a 'visa' now. The whole system changed in November last year on how applications and documents are submitted.
Great, thanks CR001. Also, in the end of the online application, there is an optional action which allows you to download a copy of supporting document checklist. Do we need to sign and upload or post the checklist to any where? Sorry for the questions. i am sure many of them are just silly...
Re: Life In The UK
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:09 pm
by CR001
No