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Difficult Absences decision

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2025 5:23 pm
by margnic
I am submitting this question on my husband's behalf.

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I am seeking expert views. Briefly, by way of background, my wife and I retired several years ago and left Australia in 2012 to live in the UK where we expect to spend the rest of our lives. My wife has the Right of Abode and I have ILR. Our passion is travel and we have done a lot of that since our arrival here, both in the UK and elsewhere. The “elsewhere" is now becoming an issue for me as I apply for naturalisation. 😉

I have studied Form AN and its associated papers and I have a reasonable understanding of what is required of me. If I was to apply for citizenship today my situation regarding absences would be as follows:
Number of days absent for the past 1 year = 78
Number of days absent for the past 5 years = 520
Number of days absent for the 2 year period prior to the beginning of the qualifying period = 180 (of which the only "substantial absence” was 90 days in Australia to sell our home in order to be able to buy our home in the UK)

By way of comparison, if I was to delay my application to 16 July 2026, the impact would be as follows:
Number of days absent for the past 1 year = 0
Number of days absent for the past 5 years = 520 (it won’t change. I would have to wait until 18 June 2027 to get it down to 450 days)
Number of days absent for the 2 year period prior to the beginning of the qualifying period = 26 (I’ve simply changed the application date to omit the period in Australia when I was selling my then home).

My preference, not surprisingly, is to apply as soon as possible but I recognise that in some ways there is a benefit to be had if I was to delay my application by 7 months.

I would very much appreciate any advice the forum experts might have. To loosely quote the Clash song “should I stay or should I go”? 😉

Re: Difficult Absences decision

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2025 10:10 pm
by Ixeon659
What about your wife, is she a British citizen? In this case, you need to count absences just for 3 years.

Re: Difficult Absences decision

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2025 6:08 am
by margnic
My wife is not a British citizen. She has Right of Abode.

Re: Difficult Absences decision

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2025 7:36 am
by alterhase58
margnic wrote:
Sun Nov 30, 2025 6:08 am
My wife is not a British citizen. She has Right of Abode.
On what basis?

Re: Difficult Absences decision

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2025 8:03 am
by margnic
My wife, as a Commonwealth citizen, was married to an English citizen before 1 January 1983 and met the other requirements, eg did not stop being a Commonwealth citizen.

Re: Difficult Absences decision

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2025 4:06 pm
by contorted_svy
margnic wrote:
Sat Nov 29, 2025 5:23 pm
I am submitting this question on my husband's behalf.

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I am seeking expert views. Briefly, by way of background, my wife and I retired several years ago and left Australia in 2012 to live in the UK where we expect to spend the rest of our lives. My wife has the Right of Abode and I have ILR. Our passion is travel and we have done a lot of that since our arrival here, both in the UK and elsewhere. The “elsewhere" is now becoming an issue for me as I apply for naturalisation. 😉

I have studied Form AN and its associated papers and I have a reasonable understanding of what is required of me. If I was to apply for citizenship today my situation regarding absences would be as follows:
Number of days absent for the past 1 year = 78
Number of days absent for the past 5 years = 520
Number of days absent for the 2 year period prior to the beginning of the qualifying period = 180 (of which the only "substantial absence” was 90 days in Australia to sell our home in order to be able to buy our home in the UK)

By way of comparison, if I was to delay my application to 16 July 2026, the impact would be as follows:
Number of days absent for the past 1 year = 0
Number of days absent for the past 5 years = 520 (it won’t change. I would have to wait until 18 June 2027 to get it down to 450 days)
Number of days absent for the 2 year period prior to the beginning of the qualifying period = 26 (I’ve simply changed the application date to omit the period in Australia when I was selling my then home).

My preference, not surprisingly, is to apply as soon as possible but I recognise that in some ways there is a benefit to be had if I was to delay my application by 7 months.

I would very much appreciate any advice the forum experts might have. To loosely quote the Clash song “should I stay or should I go”? 😉
Best to wait, as bringing down the absences in the 2 years prior to your qualifying period will make it easier to ask for discretion.

Re: Difficult Absences decision

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2025 4:47 pm
by margnic
Thank you, I respect your opinion. May I ask:
(a) Would 180 days over 2 years be considered to be a “substantial absence”?
(b) Would the fact that 90 of those 180 days were spent in Australia selling my home before returning to the UK and purchasing another property here have any impact on that?

Re: Difficult Absences decision

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2025 9:00 am
by contorted_svy
It is hard to know what counts as substantial, as it is not defined in the guidance. The nature of the absence would not matter. However, as in 7 months your absences in the 2 years before your qualifying period will significantly go down, I would advice to wait for a bit and be safer on that side.

Proof of living in the UK in documentation

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2025 11:57 am
by margnic
I have read many questions that ask about documentation for proof of living in the UK and, pretty much without exception, the answer has been that the stamped passport is fine. Great, easy.


My application documentation requirements, however, are twofold:


(1) Colour copies of all pages of the passport ….

(2) Proof of living in the UK…..

Prima facie, my intention is to follow the advice of the well informed experts on this forum and accept that the passport will also act as proof of living. Am I safe to do or am I expected to provide further information?

Re: Proof of living in the UK in documentation

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2025 2:03 pm
by contorted_svy
If your passport gets stamped that is all you will need.