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Last Minute Change Of Visa

Post by MessyBun » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:02 pm

My partner and I were planning to apply for his ILR visa this month but our marriage has broken down and he will try to apply for a Visa that will let him stay for the sake of our two year old son. please can someone advise what he will need and will he have much chance of staying? I am so lost.

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Re: Last Minute Change Of Visa

Post by Amber » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:14 pm

MessyBun wrote:My partner and I were planning to apply for his ILR visa this month but our marriage has broken down and he will try to apply for a Visa that will let him stay for the sake of our two year old son. please can someone advise what he will need and will he have much chance of staying? I am so lost.
Well for set(m) the relationship must be continuing and as it's broken down that doesn't mean it can't be fixed, have you tried therapy? If the relationship is over then you are required to tell the HO and not support the application. However, if you do support the application and pretend it's all happy family's then the application will likely succeed. However, if this guy is an a** or abuser then really you shouldn't support the application as he'll only make your life or someone else's miserable. If he forges your signatures you must report this to the HO and the police. If you do not support his application and he had no other way to stay it'll be goodbye to him. Unless he can successfully argue human rights need to stay due to family life and your son? I know it's personal but was he an abuser? Adultery?

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Post by MessyBun » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:22 pm

I can't believe this is happening but I won't be doing the Visa with him. But he will see a solicitor tomorrow to apply the other way (for our son). What does he need to prove? He works and will find a room to rent somewhere most likely. Do you think they wil let him stay?

Therapy won't work for us as he has decided he wants to live his life.

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Post by Amber » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:28 pm

MessyBun wrote:I can't believe this is happening but I won't be doing the Visa with him. But he will see a solicitor tomorrow to apply the other way (for our son). What does he need to prove? He works and will find a room to rent somewhere most likely. Do you think they wil let him stay?

Therapy won't work for us as he has decided he wants to live his life.
He will argue that under Art. 8 of the ECHR he has a right to respect for his family life. The case will be considered on the grounds of the best interest of the child. There will be a test of proportionality. That is, is there a legitimate aim not to grant an Art. 8 application? That generally means is he a criminal or a threat to the child's welfare? That's what I asked an abuser? If not then likely will succeed as the child's interest is weighed heavily with a need for interaction with both parents. But for your separation he would have received ILR.
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Post by MessyBun » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:29 pm

Ok, now I am a little worried, he better not forge my signature on anything. He decided married life wasn't for him, grrr! However, promises to be around and help out for his son.

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Post by MessyBun » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:31 pm

Thank you for your help. Now I know what to expect. Alhough, I am sure I can raise my son without him.

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Post by Amber » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:32 pm

MessyBun wrote:Ok, now I am a little worried, he better not forge my signature on anything. He decided married life wasn't for him, grrr! However, promises to be around and help out for his son.
Hmmmmm, do you think he was genuine? What do you know about his past life any chance another wife and child abroad? Well he could forge your signature that's not uncommon in such instances but he also needs your passport or birth certificate, the latter is quite easy to get if you were born in the UK. If you report the breakdown to the HO they'll note it on file and any set(m) case will be scrutinised. If he isn't an abuser and was genuine at first then I think for the child's interest and financial support you should support his human rights application.

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Post by vinny » Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:44 pm

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Post by MessyBun » Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:41 pm

So now the latest is... His solicitor has kindly asked him to ask me NOT to inform the Home Office of our marriage breakdown because it'll make his case more complicated when applying for our son. Apparently, he will apply for an extension on his Visa.

Is this true? I think the right thing to do is to inform the Home Office. Will I be in trouble if I don't?

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Post by MessyBun » Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:44 pm

Right now, I don't know if he is good or bad, genuine or whatever. He has just suddenly decided he wants to be free. He isn't ready for Family life. Grrr!

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Post by Amber » Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:58 pm

MessyBun wrote:Right now, I don't know if he is good or bad, genuine or whatever. He has just suddenly decided he wants to be free. He isn't ready for Family life. Grrr!
Well he mat get an extension visa, I think the onus is on him reporting the change of circumstance. However, you can also report it particularly if you don't think he's genuine. The solicitor is working for his interest remember.

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