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SET (LR) - ALLEGATION
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:47 pm
by rmkirfan
Dear Guys,
This forum found me as best door for excellent advices.
My First visa granted on 18/08/03 and entry clearance on 06/09/03. I m eligible to apply from 20/08/13(28 days before visa grant) and I will be ready to apply LR in later this month.
Unfortunately my partner complained against me yesterday and I'm on assault allegation and court charge on 24/09/13 (3 weeks time).
If the court proves my allegation and get warning or fine.
Does this effect ILR?
Police said this is lowest level of allegation should not effect any visa,but some said if it proves and could be criminal charge and can effect ILR under general grounds.This is first police complaint against me in 10 years.
I was thinking, Can I apply with period from 30/09/03 to 30/09/13 in early oct ?
Please guys please help... im in deep trouble.
Many Thanks in Advance
Irfan
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:18 pm
by Amber
If you are convicted or recieve a police caution, you should expect a refusal for at least 24 months.
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:31 pm
by rmkirfan
D4109125 wrote:If you are convicted or recieve a police caution, you should expect a refusal for at least 24 months.
Hi Amber,
Many thanks for your reply..
Can you please help me with link for the above?
Is it worth applying now or shall I have to wait for 24 months?
I have court hearing on 24/09/13. Does it helps me if I apply before court date?
or if she takes her complaint back does it helps me?
Please help?
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:42 am
by Amber
The impending prosecution is an issue it'll be on the PNC and the ukba will more than likely wait until you have a court decision. Though, hindsight is a great thing an assault charge at the end of your period wasn't the wisest of moves. It may now be deemed as a material fact that needs declaring, get a good criminal law solicitor to defend you. When does your current leave expire?
See immigration rule
322(1C)(iv)
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:03 am
by rmkirfan
D4109125 wrote:The impending prosecution is an issue it'll be on the PNC and the ukba will more than likely wait until you have a court decision. Though, hindsight is a great thing an assault charge at the end of your period wasn't the wisest of moves. It may now be deemed as a material fact that needs declaring, get a good criminal law solicitor to defend you. When does your current leave expire?
See immigration rule
322(1C)(iv)
Hi Amber,
Many Thanks for reply.
Current leave till Jun 2016 (Tier1).But I finished 10 years stay just now.
I was wondering about below options.
1)As you said, I have to declare in application.If I declare, Does application considered?
2)I got criminal solicitor who is assigned by police. and they were saying this is lowest level offence and should not effect any visa.
3)Is it worth keep postpone my court date which is on 24/09/13.(Im not sure i can do this).But u said HO wont wait for court decision.
Any Ideas much appreciated. Please Advice
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:48 am
by Amber
Unless your solicitor is also an immigration specialist I would treat what S(he) said with caution. The Home Office will wait until you have a decision regarding your trial. Remember a set(lr) decision will usually take 6+ months so by the time they look at your biometrics you may have a conviction. If you've got valid leave till 2016, you'll be ok to wait the 24 months if you're convicted.
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:37 pm
by rmkirfan
D4109125 wrote:Unless your solicitor is also an immigration specialist I would treat what S(he) said with caution. The Home Office will wait until you have a decision regarding your trial. Remember a set(lr) decision will usually take 6+ months so by the time they look at your biometrics you may have a conviction. If you've got valid leave till 2016, you'll be ok to wait the 24 months if you're convicted.
Many thanks for Reply Amber..
If my partner withdraw case, Does this still effect ILR to apply now?
Please Advice.
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:14 am
by Amber
If the case is dropped with no further action then it shouldn't.
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:51 am
by rmkirfan
D4109125 wrote:If the case is dropped with no further action then it shouldn't.
Many Thanks Amber.
How do you mean?
It sounds like I have to attend the court on 24 Sep. Police not accepting her withdrawal at the moment.
So If she refuse to be witness on court day, If there is no further action,
Is that case will be dropped?
Please Advice??
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 12:05 pm
by Amber
Your criminal law solicitor can advise your further regarding your court case.
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:06 pm
by rmkirfan
D4109125 wrote:Your criminal law solicitor can advise your further regarding your court case.
Cheers Amber,
she is trying to withdraw at Magistrate hearing, if not
If Magistrate court(initial hearing) gives warning, Does still effects ILR/ recorded for 24 months?
Please Advice.
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:09 pm
by Amber
Reprimands and warnings are not sentences passed by the court. If you receive a non-custodial sentence at court it will be a mandatory ILR refusal for 24 months.
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:37 pm
by rmkirfan
rmkirfan wrote:D4109125 wrote:Your criminal law solicitor can advise your further regarding your court case.
Cheers Amber,
she is trying to withdraw at Magistrate hearing, if not
If Magistrate court(initial hearing) gives warning, Does still effects ILR/ recorded for 24 months?
Please Advice.
Hi Amber,
Your advices are much appreciated and priceless.
I had Magistrate court trial today and Plead no guilty.
Though they got written withdraw statement ,Unfortunately they still proceeded to next trial dated Nov 20,And also she is not willing for witnessing on next stage as well.
Rest all ready to apply SET(LR) , Do you think its wise to apply now with out declaring conviction, as there will be no witness and lead to case dismissal Inshallah
I m trying to save these two months.
Please Advice.
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:39 pm
by Amber
You should inform them of the pending prosecution. If you're found not guilty then just write back with proof of such. It'll likely all be over by the time the Home Office look at your case.
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:45 pm
by vinny
If
SET(LR) is not possible due to
criminality, then consider extending on
FLR(LR).
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:02 pm
by Amber
Or if you have a SET(LR) application in and you're found guilty then perhaps vary the SET(LR) to FLR(LR) before they 'find out'.
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:51 pm
by rmkirfan
D4109125 wrote:Or if you have a SET(LR) application in and you're found guilty then perhaps vary the SET(LR) to FLR(LR) before they 'find out'.
Many Thanks Amber,
SET(LR) is due to apply now and current visa expires in Jun2016. I was wondering to apply now to save 2 months. But I think I should wait for court outcome and then apply with out any criminal record to ensure application in smooth process.
Many Thanks,
Irfan.
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:58 pm
by rmkirfan
rmkirfan wrote:D4109125 wrote:Or if you have a SET(LR) application in and you're found guilty then perhaps vary the SET(LR) to FLR(LR) before they 'find out'.
Many Thanks Amber,
SET(LR) is due to apply now and current visa expires in Jun2016. I was wondering to apply now to save 2 months. But I think I should wait for court outcome and then apply with out any criminal record to ensure application in smooth process.
Many Thanks,
Irfan.
Hi Amber,
What do you think my best option.
My current visa valid till Jun2016, And Im ready to apply SET(LR) Now. But I have court hearing(20 Nov) on assault allegation and hoping case wthdrawl.
1) Is it worth applying now with Pending prosecution to save time? or
2)Is it wise to apply after court conclusion with out charge declaration?
Hope I dont have to declare above charge if the court dismiss the case, is'nt?
Please Advice.
Many Thanks,
Irfan.
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:42 am
by rmkirfan
D4109125 wrote:Or if you have a SET(LR) application in and you're found guilty then perhaps vary the SET(LR) to FLR(LR) before they 'find out'.
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Hi Amber/Vinny
Many Thanks for your response.
Im hoping to case withdrawl. If not
My Tier 1 valid till Jun 2016. Im still waiting for court trial (20/11/13) with out applying SET(LR) irrespective im eligible from sep 2013.
If I get any conviction, Can I still apply for FLR(LR) and then go for citizenship in an year? Bit confused Please Advice.
Many Thanks,
Irfan.
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:10 am
by Amber
In order to naturalise as British you must have ILR/PR. You may be able to extend if you have a general grounds for refusal.
Re:
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:31 pm
by rmkirfan
Amber_ wrote:In order to naturalise as British you must have ILR/PR. You may be able to extend if you have a general grounds for refusal.
Hi ,
Finally my Assault case is dismissed with no conviction. Solicitor said there will be log as arrested, but no conviction.
Im almost ready to apply SET(LR),Do I need to disclose about case on my application? Please Advice.
Re: SET (LR) - ALLEGATION
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:42 pm
by Amber
No, I wouldn't think so.