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Applying ilr after completing 5years on tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 3:04 pm
by kingraja
Hi everyone!
I'm going to apply ilr after completing 5years on tier 1 Entrepreneur visa Feb 2018 just need help to check my documents list if I'm missing anything & do i need to send copies of all documents as well

1- Application form +passport +brp
2- life in uk pass letter
3- English test already provided
4- current appointment report
5- 3month payslip+bank statement of myself for finance purpose
5- CT41G
6- employee's id+rti+payslips
Employee's job peroid
I'm pre Apr2014 under transitional arrangements. 
1: feb2017 to Jan2018 part time 12months
2: May2017 to Jan2018 part time 9months
3: Jun2017 to Jan2018 part time 8months
4: July2017 to Jan2018 full time 7months
5: Nov2017 to Jan2018 full time 3months
I think under transitional arrangements my business have created equivalent to 2 full time jobs
If I keep my case simple then I don't need to send any other documents but I have these extra documents
List of extra documents
1- insurance certificate
2- invoices =phone+electric+bin collection+bussines rate bill+business lease +home tenancy agreement
Do I need to send any of these or not...thanks a lot

Re: Applying ilr after completing 5years on tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:22 pm
by kingraja
No reply yet :?:

Re: Applying ilr after completing 5years on tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:30 am
by kingraja
Zimba88, Marcnath & other Gurus still waiting for your's valuable reply?

Re: Applying ilr after completing 5years on tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:31 pm
by zimba
It should be OK. The required documents are very clear on SET(O). Good Luck

Re: Applying ilr after completing 5years on tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:09 am
by infinity_1106
Hi,

If you are applying with spouse, then you would need co-habitation documents as well.

Re: Applying ilr after completing 5years on tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:11 am
by kingraja
infinity_1106 wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:09 am
Hi,

If you are applying with spouse, then you would need co-habitation documents as well.
Yes I know but she is not applying with me...thanks

Re: Applying ilr after completing 5years on tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:36 pm
by kingraja
Hi everyone
Can someone Please help me how to combine above mentioned jobs in form to show I have created two full time jobs or it is not necessary for pre April 2014 applicants as they only need to create 24 month of full time employment.

Re: Applying ilr after completing 5years on tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:53 pm
by marcnath
kingraja wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:36 pm
Hi everyone
Can someone Please help me how to combine above mentioned jobs in form to show I have created two full time jobs or it is not necessary for pre April 2014 applicants as they only need to create 24 month of full time employment.
Pre-2014 you only need 24 months (104 weeks) of FT equivalent.

Re: Applying ilr after completing 5years on tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:28 pm
by kingraja
marcnath wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:53 pm
kingraja wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:36 pm
Hi everyone
Can someone Please help me how to combine above mentioned jobs in form to show I have created two full time jobs or it is not necessary for pre April 2014 applicants as they only need to create 24 month of full time employment.
Pre-2014 you only need 24 months (104 weeks) of FT equivalent.
Thanks for quick reply, so I can fill all employees separately & I don't need to combine any job?

Re: Applying ilr after completing 5years on tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:16 pm
by marcnath
kingraja wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:28 pm
marcnath wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:53 pm
kingraja wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:36 pm
Hi everyone
Can someone Please help me how to combine above mentioned jobs in form to show I have created two full time jobs or it is not necessary for pre April 2014 applicants as they only need to create 24 month of full time employment.
Pre-2014 you only need 24 months (104 weeks) of FT equivalent.
Thanks for quick reply, so I can fill all employees separately & I don't need to combine any job?
Pre or Post 2014, the rules on the part-time jobs are the same - you need to combine them.

But pre-2014, it is quite confusing on how you combine them logically.

The best is to put in all three PT employees as separate jobs (job 1, 2 & 3) and in Job 1, indicate the other jobs combined are 2 & 3 and so on.

Re: Applying ilr after completing 5years on tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:06 pm
by kingraja
Thanks I will do that way.

Re: Applying ilr after completing 5years on tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:57 pm
by kingraja
marcnath wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:16 pm
kingraja wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:28 pm
marcnath wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:53 pm
kingraja wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:36 pm
Hi everyone
Can someone Please help me how to combine above mentioned jobs in form to show I have created two full time jobs or it is not necessary for pre April 2014 applicants as they only need to create 24 month of full time employment.
Pre-2014 you only need 24 months (104 weeks) of FT equivalent.
Thanks for quick reply, so I can fill all employees separately & I don't need to combine any job?
Pre or Post 2014, the rules on the part-time jobs are the same - you need to combine them.

But pre-2014, it is quite confusing on how you combine them logically.

The best is to put in all three PT employees as separate jobs (job 1, 2 & 3) and in Job 1, indicate the other jobs combined are 2 & 3 and so on.
Hi Marcnath
I was thinking to combine all three part jobs together but then I thought if case worker only accepted 30hours per week from these three part time jobs then I will be short of 24 months of full time employment.
If I leave job no 1 separate 12 months part time, will case worker consider it 6 month of full time job & then I can combine job 2 & 3 together is ok to do this way.

Re: Applying ilr after completing 5years on tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:11 pm
by marcnath
kingraja wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:57 pm

Hi Marcnath
I was thinking to combine all three part jobs together but then I thought if case worker only accepted 30hours per week from these three part time jobs then I will be short of 24 months of full time employment.
If I leave job no 1 separate 12 months part time, will case worker consider it 6 month of full time job & then I can combine job 2 & 3 together is ok to do this way.
Split Employee 1 to two jobs - 6 months each and show them as combining to 1 FT
Similarly show the Job 2 and 3 and show them as combined.

Re: Applying ilr after completing 5years on tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:15 pm
by kingraja
Then what will be the start date of employee 1 2nd job?

Re: Applying ilr after completing 5years on tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:31 am
by marcnath
kingraja wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:15 pm
Then what will be the start date of employee 1 2nd job?
There are two columns
Start Date with your business - This will be the same in Job 1 and Job 2
Start date - This can be six months later for Job 2

Re: Applying ilr after completing 5years on tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:53 am
by kingraja
Thanks Marcnath actually I was filling online form & there was no option like this then I decided to fill offline form & already done it this way..thanks alot
I have one more question for you, I have one more employee who was working before Job no 4 but he only got his National ID card if I send his documents with his ID card then Job no 4 will be full time for 12 months becuase of your previous post I was thinking that case worker will not accept his ID card as prove of his nationality but I rang home office twice in last few days & they said that ID card is acceptable document, even if case worker don't accept it I'm fulfilling the 24 months of full time requirement, what you will recommend shall I send his documents or not?

Re: Applying ilr after completing 5years on tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:07 pm
by kingraja
Sorry it is Job no 5 not 4

Re: Applying ilr after completing 5years on tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:56 pm
by marcnath
kingraja wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:53 am
Thanks Marcnath actually I was filling online form & there was no option like this then I decided to fill offline form & already done it this way..thanks alot
I have one more question for you, I have one more employee who was working before Job no 4 but he only got his National ID card if I send his documents with his ID card then Job no 4 will be full time for 12 months becuase of your previous post I was thinking that case worker will not accept his ID card as prove of his nationality but I rang home office twice in last few days & they said that ID card is acceptable document, even if case worker don't accept it I'm fulfilling the 24 months of full time requirement, what you will recommend shall I send his documents or not?
In your case, I think it is better to send it in and of course fill the Job table also. Because of the small question whether a 12 month PT can be treated as 6 month FT, sending these documents in advance will help be a back up.
Also, in case of any unfortunate rejection, the documents would already be there for any AR purposes.

Re: Applying ilr after completing 5years on tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:44 pm
by kingraja
Thanks I'm planning to show my employees this way

Job no 1 : employee A part time 01/02/2017 to 31/07/2017 combine with Job no 2= 6 months
Job no 2 : employee A part time 01/08/2017 to 31/012018 combine with Job no 1= 6months
Job no 3 : employee B part time 01/05/2017 to 31/01/2018 combine with Job no 4= 9months
Job no 4 : epmloyee C part time 01/06/2017 to 31/01/2018 combine with Job no 3= 8months
Job no 5: employee D&E full time 01/02/2017 to 31/01/2018
Job no 6: employee F full time 01/07/2017 to 31/01/2018
Emplyee D have National ID card only & his end date is 31/10/2017
Is it ok to do this way?

Re: Applying ilr after completing 5years on tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:13 pm
by marcnath
kingraja wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:44 pm
Thanks I'm planning to show my employees this way

Job no 1 : employee A part time 01/02/2017 to 31/07/2017 combine with Job no 2= 6 months
Job no 2 : employee A part time 01/08/2017 to 31/012018 combine with Job no 1= 6months
Job no 3 : employee B part time 01/05/2017 to 31/01/2018 combine with Job no 4= 9months
Job no 4 : epmloyee C part time 01/06/2017 to 31/01/2018 combine with Job no 3= 8months
Job no 5: employee D&E full time 01/02/2017 to 31/01/2018
Job no 6: employee F full time 01/07/2017 to 31/01/2018
Emplyee D have National ID card only & his end date is 31/10/2017
Is it ok to do this way?
I would not combine employee D&E as they overlap in time.

Remember immigration rules specifies Jobs, not employees. And the maximum HO will take into account for 1 job is 30 hrs/week.

So, if 1 Job has two FT employees working at the same time, as per immigration rules it should only count as 1 Job, not two as the maximum is 30 hrs/week for a job.

Again, I think HO is quite flexible with pre-April 2014 applicants, so it may not matter. But it gives them an excuse if they need one.

Re: Applying ilr after completing 5years on tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:54 pm
by kingraja
I think that is fine if they consider it 1 Job because when emplyee D left he was working 130hours per month & he worked 9 months when he left the job emplyee E joined in the same Job & he is working 130hours per month total 3 months until 31/01/2018 both together making it 12 months of full time Job.
But even if you think this is not a good idea then I can put them separately.

Re: Applying ilr after completing 5years on tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:57 pm
by marcnath
kingraja wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:54 pm
I think that is fine if they consider it 1 Job because when emplyee D left he was working 130hours per month & he worked 9 months when he left the job emplyee E joined in the same Job & he is working 130hours per month total 3 months until 31/01/2018 both together making it 12 months of full time Job.
But even if you think this is not a good idea then I can put them separately.
If they are one after the other, then that is fine. It is better to have them in one job. I possibly mixed up the employee and their dates.

Re: Applying ilr after completing 5years on tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:58 pm
by kingraja
Yes they are one after other..thanks
Do I need to send employee D P45 becuase he left the job or its not required?

Re: Applying ilr after completing 5years on tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:28 pm
by marcnath
kingraja wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:58 pm
Yes they are one after other..thanks
Do I need to send employee D P45 becuase he left the job or its not required?
Not required

Re: Applying ilr after completing 5years on tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:52 pm
by kingraja
Thank you so much I will come back if I need your help again.