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ILR Set (o) - Fixed penalty notice - jump signal - caught in camera
Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 4:11 pm
by situk
Applying for ILR in June end.Form filling done except one question - confused about it so looking for help.
This was 2 year before.
I got Fixed Penalty notice (From Manchester Police) - Fail to comply with Traffice Light signal (camera) means Jumping Red Signal
Offered me What's Driving Us scheme course, attended training all done.
7.3 Have you, or any dependants who are applying with you, been subject to, or received, any
other penalty in relation to a criminal offence; for example caution, reprimand, warning, or similar
penalties in the UK or any other country?
Should I mentioned my FPN?
I spent hours to find in this forum and general answer about FPN (course or 3 point) - NO
I am applying myself so am cautious and so checked with Friends solicitor, he said yes declare in 7.3.
Question is:
Even though by general rule no need to declare FPN but just for peace of mind if I declare it, does it make any difference?
I am over cautious and thinking like if I dont mention and impact anyway.
As always appreciate your help.
Thanks
Re: ILR Set (o) - Fixed penalty notice - jump signal - caught in camera
Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 4:18 pm
by CMOSUK
situk wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 4:11 pm
Applying for ILR in June end.Form filling done except one question - confused about it so looking for help.
This was 2 year before.
I got Fixed Penalty notice (From Manchester Police) - Fail to comply with Traffice Light signal (camera) means Jumping Red Signal
Offered me What's Driving Us scheme course, attended training all done.
7.3 Have you, or any dependants who are applying with you, been subject to, or received, any
other penalty in relation to a criminal offence; for example caution, reprimand, warning, or similar
penalties in the UK or any other country?
Should I mentioned my FPN?
I spent hours to find in this forum and general answer about FPN (course or 3 point) - NO
I am applying myself so am cautious and so checked with Friends solicitor, he said yes declare in 7.3.
Question is:
Even though by general rule no need to declare FPN but just for peace of mind if I declare it, does it make any difference?
I am over cautious and thinking like if I dont mention and impact anyway.
As always appreciate your help.
Thanks
My understanding is, FPN does not have much impact for an application of ILR but does for when you apply to naturalise as a British citizen.
You should I'm my opinion declare it just to be transparent with the case worker and not hide any information that they may deem as concealing or trying to circumvent the Immigration Rules.
Re: ILR Set (o) - Fixed penalty notice - jump signal - caught in camera
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 1:06 am
by zimba
No need to declare
Re: ILR Set (o) - Fixed penalty notice - jump signal - caught in camera
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 10:58 pm
by situk
CMOSUK wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 4:18 pm
situk wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 4:11 pm
Applying for ILR in June end.Form filling done except one question - confused about it so looking for help.
This was 2 year before.
I got Fixed Penalty notice (From Manchester Police) - Fail to comply with Traffice Light signal (camera) means Jumping Red Signal
Offered me What's Driving Us scheme course, attended training all done.
7.3 Have you, or any dependants who are applying with you, been subject to, or received, any
other penalty in relation to a criminal offence; for example caution, reprimand, warning, or similar
penalties in the UK or any other country?
Should I mentioned my FPN?
I spent hours to find in this forum and general answer about FPN (course or 3 point) - NO
I am applying myself so am cautious and so checked with Friends solicitor, he said yes declare in 7.3.
Question is:
Even though by general rule no need to declare FPN but just for peace of mind if I declare it, does it make any difference?
I am over cautious and thinking like if I dont mention and impact anyway.
As always appreciate your help.
Thanks
My understanding is, FPN does not have much impact for an application of ILR but does for when you apply to naturalise as a British citizen.
You should I'm my opinion declare it just to be transparent with the case worker and not hide any information that they may deem as concealing or trying to circumvent the Immigration Rules.
Thanks for your quick response on this.
Re: ILR Set (o) - Fixed penalty notice - jump signal - caught in camera
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 11:03 pm
by situk
zimba88 wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 1:06 am
No need to declare
This is where I get confused
.
By general rule, I agree and no need to declare.
Confusion is, If I declare, does it create any confusion for my application.
I would prefer not to and till date was sure not to declare but as some solicitor whom I contacted, prefer it to declare said YES.
However many of my friends not declared it still got ILR.
Sorry it looks like I am over cautious.
In any case I am going to post my story once my application is done.
Re: ILR Set (o) - Fixed penalty notice - jump signal - caught in camera
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 11:52 pm
by zimba
You need to only declare convictions, an FPN is not a conviction
Re: ILR Set (o) - Fixed penalty notice - jump signal - caught in camera
Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 5:11 am
by Pinky5688
Question 7.1 on set (o) form says that one does not need declare fixed penalty notices (speeding and parking tickets).
Re: ILR Set (o) - Fixed penalty notice - jump signal - caught in camera
Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 10:20 pm
by situk
zimba88 wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 11:52 pm
You need to only declare convictions, an FPN is not a conviction
zimba88 Many thanks for clarifying.
Re: ILR Set (o) - Fixed penalty notice - jump signal - caught in camera
Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 10:25 pm
by situk
Pinky5688 wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 5:11 am
Question 7.1 on set (o) form says that one does not need declare fixed penalty notices (speeding and parking tickets).
Thanks Pinky5688.
I understood what you meant by 7.1. But this statement is ambiguous as if it meant for whole section, they should have mentioned it before 7.1 and not within 7.1.
Confusion start when it comes to 7.3 where it ask for penalties. (next page)
However saying above, agree that on general FPN is not required to be declared but what they say on 7.1 not necessarily confirm about it.
Re: ILR Set (o) - Fixed penalty notice - jump signal - caught in camera
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:14 pm
by shughal12
Hi Situk,
Could you please let us know what did you do in your application. I am in same situation. I got Fixed Penalty notice from police for parking. Not sure if I need to mention it in my application. If yes, where to mention it as 7.1 section say no need to mention FPN but in 7.3. it says penalty related to criminal offence. It is not a criminal offence. I dont htink I need to say Yes there. What did you do, please share your story. Please
Re: ILR Set (o) - Fixed penalty notice - jump signal - caught in camera
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 4:24 pm
by zimba
Do NOT tag your queries on someone's topic. As advised FPNs do not need to be declared in mots cases and when there was no court conviction. Being issued an FPN is NOT a criminal offence