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regarding proof of cohabitation is barclays account statement and barclay credit card statement 1 source or 2 source

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:23 pm
by ricky83
Dear Experts ,

me , my wife and 1 dayghter 6 years old are going to apply for ILR from tier2 general in jan 2019.


regarding proof of cohabitation

is barclays bank account statement and barclays credit card statement considered 1 source or 2 different source bu uk home office case workers ( any guidance explains this ) ?


if you talk to people in baclays bank branch they say barclays card is different company


can some body explain this ?

Re: regarding proof of cohabitation is barclays account statement and barclay credit card statement 1 source or 2 sourc

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 12:23 am
by cyclina1
Caseworker are not experts and they likely will consider both statements are one source as they are from the same bank.

You can provide council tax bill with both you and your wife name on it, as the other source.

Re: regarding proof of cohabitation is barclays account statement and barclay credit card statement 1 source or 2 sourc

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:08 am
by SAMISPOUSAL
why is this even an issue of concern ?????
you have to provide so many documents ... the total source is always going to be more than 3 ...if you cant manage more than three sources then you have very impossible narrow life...you have many different utility bills council bills bank statements government based documents (tax office etc) letters even immigration letters.. .....so much..

yes it is safe and best to assume that all barclays documents is one source even though they say its a different company.
Hope this helps
Good luck

Re: regarding proof of cohabitation is barclays account statement and barclay credit card statement 1 source or 2 sourc

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:13 am
by NomiKaay
ricky83 wrote:
Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:23 pm
Dear Experts ,

me , my wife and 1 dayghter 6 years old are going to apply for ILR from tier2 general in jan 2019.


regarding proof of cohabitation

is barclays bank account statement and barclays credit card statement considered 1 source or 2 different source bu uk home office case workers ( any guidance explains this ) ?


if you talk to people in baclays bank branch they say barclays card is different company - Ahhh the front office staff - amazing creatures! It is not a separate or different company, it is merely a separate entity belonging to the same Banking Group, those buffoons should know better. Anyhow, this doesn't help you as caseworkers are as moronic as those front office staff - they will definitely treat as the same company / source


can some body explain this ?

Re: regarding proof of cohabitation is barclays account statement and barclay credit card statement 1 source or 2 sourc

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:08 pm
by ricky83
if there is any hospital letter by NHS and it is adressed :

to the parents of
miss xxxx ( this baby is uk born .... i will direct apply citizenship not ILR )



does this NHS doccument fulfill 1 source on joint name ?

Re: regarding proof of cohabitation is barclays account statement and barclay credit card statement 1 source or 2 sourc

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:14 pm
by Meesha
Hi,
How many u need? I believe 3?
How about
1. Bank statemnets
2. phone bills/utility bills
3. Same doctor/ surgery. Letter from doctor
4. DVLA. Even if u both hold provisional, it will serve the purpose
5. Lease agreement. u can get it redrafted.
6. Council tax with both of ur names
7. Old HO reference letters
8.Electoral office letter

I have not gone through it and obviously seniors can advise better.

Re: regarding proof of cohabitation is barclays account statement and barclay credit card statement 1 source or 2 sourc

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:38 pm
by Casa
ricky83 wrote:
Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:08 pm
if there is any hospital letter by NHS and it is adressed :

to the parents of
miss xxxx ( this baby is uk born .... i will direct apply citizenship not ILR )



does this NHS doccument fulfill 1 source on joint name ?
Yes, it does.

Re: regarding proof of cohabitation is barclays account statement and barclay credit card statement 1 source or 2 sourc

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:48 pm
by ricky83
tv license auto generated electronically dont have any issue date on them ( because i have a tv license generated on 30-sep-2017 ).



however i have an email in my inbox that was received when i did payment for this tv license


can i attach that email with tv license and use that as 1 proof of cohabitation ?

Re: regarding proof of cohabitation is barclays account statement and barclay credit card statement 1 source or 2 sourc

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:29 am
by CULLINAN
ricky83 wrote:
Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:48 pm
tv license auto generated electronically dont have any issue date on them ( because i have a tv license generated on 30-sep-2017 ).



however i have an email in my inbox that was received when i did payment for this tv license


can i attach that email with tv license and use that as 1 proof of cohabitation ?
TV license usually has the name and address and the “Valid Until” date on it.
So it runs for 12 months.
Is it still valid?

I am not sure if the document should be valid or old but given it has the valid until date its understood it runs for 12 months

Re: regarding proof of cohabitation is barclays account statement and barclay credit card statement 1 source or 2 sourc

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 10:43 am
by ricky83
tv license im using was valid until which was 30-sep-2018 , however i have renewed after that as well , but i need cohabitation for sep-oct 2017 and this is only doccument i have for those months.



bank statements , nhs letter etc dont have any expiry date , in same way we can use tv license as well i think.

any experts opinion ?

Re: regarding proof of cohabitation is barclays account statement and barclay credit card statement 1 source or 2 sourc

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:59 pm
by ricky83
can i get a letter from my GP for cohabitation proof which states that :


This is to confirm that Mr. ABC & Mrs. XYZ resident of AAAAABBBBBCCCCC has been registered at DEF HEALTH CENTRE since 01-Feb-2016 and are still registered at this surgery.

does this satisfy cohabitation requirement ?

i have cohabitation letter from other sources as below :


JAN-FEB 2017 HOME OFFICE DOCCUMENTS ME , MY WIFE


APR 2017 NHS LETTER MY WIFE
BANK STATEMENT ME


SEP2017 TV LICENSE ME
SKY BILL MY WIFE




JAN2018 CREDIT CARD STATEMENT ME
BANK STATEMENT MY WIFE



MAY 2018 EDF LETTER ( NOT UTILITY BILL ) JOINT NAME



OCT 2018 EDF UTILITY BILL JOINT NAME




does above fulfill my requirement or do i get letter from GP for cohabitation ?

passport place of issue to write in set o form

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:15 pm
by ricky83
my wife has pakistani passport

in dec 2017 we renewed this passport and we submitted application in pakistani consulate birmingham.


on passport it is only written ISSUING AUTHORITY PAKISTAN

now while filling online set o form in place of issue what do i write ( ? )

it is not mentioned any where in passport about birmingham place of issue

Re: passport place of issue to write in set o form

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:20 pm
by CULLINAN
ricky83 wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:15 pm
my wife has pakistani passport

in dec 2017 we renewed this passport and we submitted application in pakistani consulate birmingham.


on passport it is only written ISSUING AUTHORITY PAKISTAN

now while filling online set o form in place of issue what do i write ( ? )

it is not mentioned any where in passport about birmingham place of issue
Pakistan

Re: passport place of issue to write in set o form

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:24 pm
by CULLINAN
ricky83 wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:15 pm
my wife has pakistani passport

in dec 2017 we renewed this passport and we submitted application in pakistani consulate birmingham.


on passport it is only written ISSUING AUTHORITY PAKISTAN

now while filling online set o form in place of issue what do i write ( ? )

it is not mentioned any where in passport about birmingham place of issue
Place of issue: Just write Pakistani consulate birmigham.
I know passport only has issuing authority as pakistan

does not matter this is not a big deal

some questions while filling set o online form

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:35 pm
by ricky83
im filling online set o form

me , my wife and 1 baby got visa on 22 feb-2014.


we came to uk on 12-apr-2014. ( this is my first entry date uk )


if we count 5 years ( minus 28 days ) i qualify to submit my online application on 25jan2019.



Date you first entered the UK

When did you first enter the UK? (Required)
This is the date you entered the UK when the period of stay you are basing this application on started.



if we see above text these are two different things

bcz i first entered uk 12-apr-2014

while i got visa on 22-feb-2014 im submitting this application from point of view of 22-feb-2014 ).


plz answer

Re: some questions while filling set o online form

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:37 pm
by CULLINAN
ricky83 wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:35 pm
im filling online set o form

me , my wife and 1 baby got visa on 22 feb-2014.


we came to uk on 12-apr-2014. ( this is my first entry date uk )


if we count 5 years ( minus 28 days ) i qualify to submit my online application on 25jan2019.



Date you first entered the UK

When did you first enter the UK? (Required)
This is the date you entered the UK when the period of stay you are basing this application on started.



if we see above text these are two different things

bcz i first entered uk 12-apr-2014

while i got visa on 22-feb-2014 9 im submitting this application from point of view of 22-feb-2014 ).


plz answer
you have to keep all your questions in one thread

Re: some questions while filling set o online form

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:24 pm
by ricky83
countries you lived outside uk including you country of birth


in my case

since my birth till feb 2001 i lived in my home country

feb 2001 to sep 2005 in lived in republic of cyprus ( i did my graduation from there )


then oct 2005 to feb 2014 i again lived in my home country

apr 2014 - present ( im in uk )


do i fill all these details like this in set o form ?

Re: some questions while filling set o online form

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:29 pm
by CULLINAN
ricky83 wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:24 pm
countries you lived outside uk including you country of birth


in my case

since my birth till feb 2001 i lived in my home country

feb 2001 to sep 2005 in lived in republic of cyprus ( i did my graduation from there )


then oct 2005 to feb 2014 i again lived in my home country

correct

apr 2014 - present ( im in uk ) you dont need to mention this as it only asks about countries OUTSIDE UK


do i fill all these details like this in set o form ?

Re: some questions while filling set o online form

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:54 pm
by ricky83
I did my graduation degree from cyprus and it was taught in english

now there are two things :

1. i got a letter in 2014 from my institute which shows that medium of instruction for study was ENGLISH.


2. I also did IELTS in july 2013 .


i presented both above papers in high commission while i was granted visa in 2014.


again in jan-2017 when i applied for visa extension i did not provide any further english language proof ?


do i attach letter from my institute as proof of medium of instructio nwas ENGLISH and attach my IELTS as well ?

Re: some questions while filling set o online form

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:03 pm
by CULLINAN
ricky83 wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:54 pm
I did my graduation degree from cyprus and it was taught in english

now there are two things :

1. i got a letter in 2014 from my institute which shows that medium of instruction for study was ENGLISH.


2. I also did IELTS in july 2013 .


i presented both above papers in high commission while i was granted visa in 2014.


again in jan-2017 when i applied for visa extension i did not provide any further english language proof ?


do i attach letter from my institute as proof of medium of instructio nwas ENGLISH and attach my IELTS as well ?
You need to prove english at level B1 for your ILR:
https://www.trinitycollege.com/site/?id=3220

Also, dont forget Life in UK

Wait for someone else to confirm if you still can use the cyprus degree and letter

Re: some questions while filling set o online form

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:58 am
by ricky83
what is impact on ILR if you can not provide UK NARIC EQUIVALENCE ?


what does policy guidance say about this ?

Re: some questions while filling set o online form

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:37 am
by CR001
You need NARIC red route OR English B1 test. You don't need both.

If you dont submit anything, you risk a refusal.

Re: some questions while filling set o online form

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:50 am
by ricky83
actually in 2014 when i applied for tier 2 General i applied for NARIC equivalence but due to some reason NARIC refused to provide me EQUIVALENCE.

to fullfill that NARIC EQUIVALENCE i provided a letter from my institute stating that my MEDIUM OF instruction was ENGLISH.


IN 2013 I also did IELTS GENERAL TRAINING , i also attached that with my application.




in 2017 at time of extension i did not provide any ENGLISH LANGUAGE proof and i got extension.






now i am eligible for ILR from 26-jan-2019 , while filling SET O if i

use my degree as ENGLISH LANGUAGE i have to present NARIC EQUIVALENCE + COLLEGE LETTER ( but NARIC refused me in 2014 so i can not get NARIC equivalence )


i did IELTS IN 2013 , i have that ....... will that be valid still ??


i can also do TRINITY COLLEGE B1 exam now ?


what experts suggest ?

Re: some questions while filling set o online form

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:11 pm
by ricky83
i got 2 uk visa refusals in past

1. uk visit visa refused in december 2002 ( while i was in studying in cyprus )

2. my uk student visa was refused in december 2003 ( while i was studying in cyprus )


now i am eligible for ILR from 26jan2019.


it has been more than 15 years ....... how it can affect my ILR application ?

Do Home Office consider 15 year old visa applications ?

Re: some questions while filling set o online form

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:52 am
by CULLINAN
ricky83 wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:11 pm
i got 2 uk visa refusals in past

1. uk visit visa refused in december 2002 ( while i was in studying in cyprus )

2. my uk student visa was refused in december 2003 ( while i was studying in cyprus )


now i am eligible for ILR from 26jan2019.


it has been more than 15 years ....... how it can affect my ILR application ?

Do Home Office consider 15 year old visa applications ?
If it had any impact you would not be in UK right now. You got a visa and you are here.
You should declare it and be truthful though.