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Help with calculating employee hours for Tier1 to ILR
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:26 pm
by rajbhanu300
Dear Members,
I am planning to apply for my ILR in couple of months.I have in total 7 employees out of which 2 employees are full time and the rest are part-time.The following are the no. of hours worked by each employee:-
Employee A- Part time From Dec 2017 till date-5o hrs each month
Employee B- Part time from Jan 2018 to Aug 2018- 85 hrs each month
Employee c- Part time from Jan 2018 to Jan 2019- 80 hrs each month
Employee d- Part time from Feb 2018 till date- 60 hrs each month
Employee e-Part time from Mar 2018 till date-60 hrs each month
Employee f- Full time from June 2018 till date- 130 hrs each month
Employee g- Full time from July 2018 till date- 150 hrs each month
I applied my initial visa before April 2014.So i think i am under transitional arrangements.Considering the above scenario,could anyone tell me the best way to combine the jobs and fulfill the job creation requirements?Any suggestions are most welcome.
Re: Help with calculating employee hours for Tier1 to ILR
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:49 pm
by CULLINAN
rajbhanu300 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:26 pm
Dear Members,
I am planning to apply for my ILR in couple of months.I have in total 7 employees out of which 2 employees are full time and the rest are part-time.The following are the no. of hours worked by each employee:-
Employee A- Part time From Dec 2017 till date-5o hrs each month
Employee B- Part time from Jan 2018 to Aug 2018- 85 hrs each month
Employee c- Part time from Jan 2018 to Jan 2019- 80 hrs each month
Employee d- Part time from Feb 2018 till date- 60 hrs each month
Employee e-Part time from Mar 2018 till date-60 hrs each month
Employee f- Full time from June 2018 till date- 130 hrs each month
Employee g- Full time from July 2018 till date- 150 hrs each month
I applied my initial visa before April 2014.So i think i am under transitional arrangements.Considering the above scenario,could anyone tell me the best way to combine the jobs and fulfill the job creation requirements?Any suggestions are most welcome.
You can only benefit from transitional arrangements if you apply before 6th April 2019. In that case all you need is 104 weeks of FT employment min 30 hours a week in any combination of jobs or employees AFTER extension.
Incase you plan to apply after 6th April 2019, then you need 2 FT “JOBS” for 12 months each AFTER extension.
What is your initial visa date?
What is your extension date?
Re: Help with calculating employee hours for Tier1 to ILR
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:18 pm
by rajbhanu300
Thanks tier11417. I got my initial on 28 April 2014.What can be the earliest date to apply for ILR. Also looking at my employee hours, what could be the best combination to satisfy the Job creation requirement? I pay monthly to my employees and hence would like to calculate monthly (Equivalent of 24 months full time requirements)
Looking forward for any more suggestions.
Re: Help with calculating employee hours for Tier1 to ILR
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:54 pm
by CULLINAN
tier11417 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:49 pm
rajbhanu300 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:26 pm
Dear Members,
I am planning to apply for my ILR in couple of months.I have in total 7 employees out of which 2 employees are full time and the rest are part-time.The following are the no. of hours worked by each employee:-
Employee A- Part time From Dec 2017 till date-5o hrs each month
Employee B- Part time from Jan 2018 to Aug 2018- 85 hrs each month
Employee c- Part time from Jan 2018 to Jan 2019- 80 hrs each month
Employee d- Part time from Feb 2018 till date- 60 hrs each month
Employee e-Part time from Mar 2018 till date-60 hrs each month
Employee f- Full time from June 2018 till date- 130 hrs each month
Employee g- Full time from July 2018 till date- 150 hrs each month
I applied my initial visa before April 2014.So i think i am under transitional arrangements.Considering the above scenario,could anyone tell me the best way to combine the jobs and fulfill the job creation requirements?Any suggestions are most welcome.
You can only benefit from transitional arrangements if you apply before 6th April 2019. In that case all you need is 104 weeks of FT employment min 30 hours a week in any combination of jobs or employees AFTER extension.
Incase you plan to apply after 6th April 2019, then you need 2 FT “JOBS” for 12 months each AFTER extension.
What is your initial visa date?
What is your extension date???????
and also I am assuming you applied before 6th April 2014, as you said you were approved on 28th April 2014
Re: Help with calculating employee hours for Tier1 to ILR
Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:51 am
by rajbhanu300
My extension is from 1st dec.2017.So all the jobs mentioned above are after extension.I want to know how the jobs can be combined and what could be the earliest date to apply for ilr.
All suggestions are appreciated.
Re: Help with calculating employee hours for Tier1 to ILR
Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:57 pm
by aman90
You qualify under continuous residence from 01/04/19
To benefit from transitional arrangement the latest you can apply is
05/04/19
From the looks of ur stated employment
Job1
Employee F- FT
Job2
Employee G - FT
Approx= 19 months
Job 3
Employee C or D -PT
6 months
Combined with but stated as a seperate job.
Job 4
Employee E - PT
6months
Appr= 6 months
Total= 25 months
Re: Help with calculating employee hours for Tier1 to ILR
Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:08 pm
by CULLINAN
rajbhanu300 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:51 am
My extension is from 1st dec.2017.So all the jobs mentioned above are after extension.I want to know how the jobs can be combined and what could be the earliest date to apply for ilr.
All suggestions are appreciated.
Make sure you apply before 6th April 2019.
Re: Help with calculating employee hours for Tier1 to ILR
Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:10 pm
by rajbhanu300
Thanks aman90 for your reply. But i am still confused regarding which employees you are suggesting to combine? Could you pl make it clear.
Thanks
Re: Help with calculating employee hours for Tier1 to ILR
Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:12 pm
by rajbhanu300
Thanks tier11417. Yes i got it that i need to apply before 6th april to get under transitional arrangements.Do you have any suggestions for my employees?
Re: Help with calculating employee hours for Tier1 to ILR
Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:20 pm
by CULLINAN
rajbhanu300 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:12 pm
Thanks tier11417. Yes i got it that i need to apply before 6th april to get under transitional arrangements.Do you have any suggestions for my employees?
Its better to mention exact start/end dates for employees for proper advice.
Re: Help with calculating employee hours for Tier1 to ILR
Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:10 pm
by rajbhanu300
Thanks tier11417. All of my jobs start from 1st of mentioned month.Only 2 employees have left at the end of the month.(Last date of that month).So basically the whole months can be calculated while combining the jobs.I hope that makes clearer to get more ideas/suggestions.
Hoping to hear from you soon.
Re: Help with calculating employee hours for Tier1 to ILR
Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:36 pm
by CULLINAN
rajbhanu300 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:10 pm
Thanks tier11417. All of my jobs start from 1st of mentioned month.Only 2 employees have left at the end of the month.(Last date of that month).So basically the whole months can be calculated while combining the jobs.I hope that makes clearer to get more ideas/suggestions.
Hoping to hear from you soon.
Lets say you will apply on 1st April 2019.
One of the combination could be:
Employee F: 1st June 2018 - 31st March 2019 10 FT months
Employee G 1st July 2018 - 31st March 2019 9 months
Total 19 FT months
Combine C & D
1st Feb 2018 - 30th June 2018
5 months FT
Total: 24 FT months
You have many possibilities. 24 months are required but you can send a month or two on top just cause you have it.
Re: Help with calculating employee hours for Tier1 to ILR
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:03 am
by aman90
rajbhanu300 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:10 pm
Thanks aman90 for your reply. But i am still confused regarding which employees you are suggesting to combine? Could you pl make it clear.
Thanks
Going on what you’ve stated:
Just list employee C and D as 2 separate jobs (coz you can under TA)
These 2 combined are equivalent to 1 full time Job hours.
RTI FPS & Payslips
June 2018- March 2019
Re: Help with calculating employee hours for Tier1 to ILR
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:05 am
by CULLINAN
aman90 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:03 am
rajbhanu300 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:10 pm
Thanks aman90 for your reply. But i am still confused regarding which employees you are suggesting to combine? Could you pl make it clear.
Thanks
Going on what you’ve stated:
Just list employee C and D as 2 separate jobs (coz you can under TA)
These 2 combined are equivalent to 1 full time Job hours.
RTI FPS & Payslips
June 2018- March 2019
FPS Feb 2018** - March 2019
Re: Help with calculating employee hours for Tier1 to ILR
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:17 am
by aman90
Why Feb 18?
Only needs 5 months from PT
June 18 to Jan 19 covers 8 months.
Or am I missing something here..
Re: Help with calculating employee hours for Tier1 to ILR
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:44 am
by CULLINAN
tier11417 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:36 pm
rajbhanu300 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:10 pm
Thanks tier11417. All of my jobs start from 1st of mentioned month.Only 2 employees have left at the end of the month.(Last date of that month).So basically the whole months can be calculated while combining the jobs.I hope that makes clearer to get more ideas/suggestions.
Hoping to hear from you soon.
Lets say you will apply on 1st April 2019.
One of the combination could be:
Employee F: 1st June 2018 - 31st March 2019 10 FT months
Employee G 1st July 2018 - 31st March 2019 9 months
Total 19 FT months
Combine C & D
1st Feb 2018 - 30th June 2018
5 months FT
Total: 24 FT months
You have many possibilities. 24 months are required but you can send a month or two on top just cause you have it.
As a whole OP needs
FPS Feb 2018 - March 2019.
Employee C & D from Feb 2018 onwards
Re: Help with calculating employee hours for Tier1 to ILR
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:47 am
by CULLINAN
aman90 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:17 am
Why Feb 18?
Only needs 5 months from PT
June 18 to Jan 19 covers 8 months.
Or am I missing something here..
Sorry got it, actually OP has many options so yes this is a possibility also, rather count June 2018 onwards both C and D. I actually counted PT Feb 2018 onwards.
Re: Help with calculating employee hours for Tier1 to ILR
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:09 pm
by rajbhanu300
Dear Members,
Just want to confirm whether we have to send anything else apart from passport copies if an employee is born after 1983? I mean one of my employees is 17 and one is 20.I have got their passport copies.Do i need any other proof of identification for them?
Your responses are highly appreciated.
Re: Help with calculating employee hours for Tier1 to ILR
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:04 pm
by rajbhanu300
Nobody knows?I hope some of the members must have used the employees of that age to claim job creation.Pl let me know if anybody knows to confirm if i need anything else as one of them will be leaving soon.
Any responses are highly appreciated.
Re: Help with calculating employee hours for Tier1 to ILR
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:38 pm
by CULLINAN
rajbhanu300 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:04 pm
Nobody knows?I hope some of the members must have used the employees of that age to claim job creation.Pl let me know if anybody knows to confirm if i need anything else as one of them will be leaving soon.
Any responses are highly appreciated.
Refer to Tier 1 guidance page 33
d) Copies of
any of the following documents which demonstrate that each employee has settled status in the UK:
(i) the biometric data page of a British or EEA passport showing the photograph and personal details of the employee;
(ii) a birth certificate, showing the employee was born in the UK and Colonies before 1 January 1983;
(iii) if the employee was born in the UK on or after 1 January 1983, a birth certificate, together with documentation, such as a passport or naturalisation certificate, which confirms one of their parents had settled status in the UK when the employee was born, and additionally, if the parent is the employee’s father, a marriage certificate to the mother;
(iv) if the employee is an EEA national, a UK registration certificate/permanent residence document;
(v) if the employee is the spouse of an EEA national, the biometric data page of their passport, showing their photograph and personal details, or a residence card, and any of the documents in (i) or (iv) above which relate to the EEA national, together with their marriage certificate to the EEA national; or
(vi) If the worker is an overseas national with settled status in the UK, the biometric data page of their passport containing their photograph and personal details, and the pages where a UK Government stamp or an endorsement appear, or a biometrics residence permit, or official documentation from the Home Office which confirms their settled status in the UK.
Re: Help with calculating employee hours for Tier1 to ILR
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:35 pm
by rajbhanu300
Thanks tier11417. Also regarding the job creation points,can we list all the jobs created during extension? I haven't gone through the online application yet but want to know if that makes easier for the case worker to count the 12 months requirement?What's your suggestion?
Re: Help with calculating employee hours for Tier1 to ILR
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:19 pm
by CULLINAN
rajbhanu300 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:35 pm
Thanks tier11417. Also regarding the job creation points,can we list all the jobs created during extension? I haven't gone through the online application yet but want to know if that makes easier for the case worker to count the 12 months requirement?What's your suggestion?
You can claim for all job creation after extension. The rule is you need 104 weeks/24 months of 30 hours/week FT employment. Its all best to send more if you have. As per the rule CW needs to count 24 months or 104 weeks only although its better to send some more to be on the safer side(given you apply before 6th April). If you apply after 6th April, you need 2 FT jobs for 12 months each.
Re: Help with calculating employee hours for Tier1 to ILR
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:14 pm
by aman90
Initial grant: 28/04/14
Ext: Dec 17
5 years for ILR: 28/04/19 minus 28 days
= 01/04/19
If you apply by 5th April 2019:
Job 1: FT
Emp F= June 18 - March 19 payslips
10 months
Job 2: FT
Emp G= July 18 - March 19 payslips
9 months
Job 3: PT
Emp C = June 18- Jan 19 payslips
8 months
Job 4: PT
Emp D OR Emp E= June 18- Jan 19 payslips
8 months.
RTI FPS June 18- March 19
This above will suffice to keep paperwork to the minimum and gives 27 months of employment which is more than required to qualify...
Re: Help with calculating employee hours for Tier1 to ILR
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:25 pm
by rajbhanu300
Thanks aman90 and tier11417 for your prompt replies.Yes, as you mentioned, i am thinking to supply all the jobs created after extension as suggested by aman90. But do we have that much space in online application?I need to find out!Also,if for any reason i apply after 6th april, will the above job creation still works?Please let me know if anybody has successfully applied in similar conditions in the past.
Re: Help with calculating employee hours for Tier1 to ILR
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:44 am
by aman90
Run a dummy application and find out.. if ur applying after 6th April.. it still won’t make much of a difference to you..
The requirement is that the 2 jobs must have lasted at least 12 months.
Employees may come and go..
2 part time JOBs can be combined to equal 1 job provided they lasted 12 months each.. mind you this isn’t 2 employees..
Now use this intelligence to apply this to ur jobs and employees you have.