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Set(O) GTV to ILR - Confusing Evidence Requirements
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 2:31 pm
by slackdrop
Hi everyone.
I scoured the board for answers but wasn't able to find any - so decided to open a new thread.
I've recently completed an application form for ILR coming from Global Talent Visa, combined with Tier 2 (General).
In the document checklist, it's asking for the following two pieces of evidence.
Document 1:
Official tax documents from HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) or an employer showing earnings on which you paid tax or will pay in a tax year
Document 2:
An official tax document produced by HM Revenue & Customs or the applicant’s employer, which shows earnings on which tax has been paid or will be paid in a tax year, and is either
- A document produced by HM Revenue & Customs that shows details of declarable taxable income on which tax has been paid or will be paid in a tax year, such as a tax refund letter or tax demand,
- A P60 document produced by an employer as an official return to HM Revenue & Customs, showing details of earnings on which tax has been paid in a tax year, or
- A document produced by a person, business, or company as an official return to HM Revenue & Customs, showing details of earnings on which tax has been paid or will be paid in a tax year, and which has been approved, registered, or stamped by HM Revenue & Customs; or
- Dividend vouchers, confirming the gross and net dividend paid by a company to the applicant, normally from its profits. The applicant must provide a separate dividend voucher or payment advice slip for each dividend payment.
Am I missing some subtlety here? To me it looks like the two documents are referring to the same thing.
Originally I was just planning on submitting 2 year's worth of P60 forms. Can I upload them twice to satisfy both requirements? Or do I need to now procure a separate piece of evidence?
Re: Set(O) GTV to ILR - Confusing Evidence Requirements
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 4:41 pm
by AmazonianX
Sometimes same piece of document can be used to satisfy 2 requirements, it appears to be so in this case.
Re: Set(O) GTV to ILR - Confusing Evidence Requirements
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 1:27 am
by zimba
There is NO specific evidentiary requirement under the GTV rules at all:
ILR earning requirement under Global Talent Visa
The checklist does not reflect the rules and simply shows a bunch of options you may consider. There is no specific requirement to satisfy. You may choose to send whatever document you have to show that you were earning money in your field
Re: Set(O) GTV to ILR - Confusing Evidence Requirements
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:30 am
by samory
slackdrop wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 2:31 pm
Hi everyone.
I scoured the board for answers but wasn't able to find any - so decided to open a new thread.
I've recently completed an application form for ILR coming from Global Talent Visa, combined with Tier 2 (General).
In the document checklist, it's asking for the following two pieces of evidence.
Document 1:
Official tax documents from HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) or an employer showing earnings on which you paid tax or will pay in a tax year
Document 2:
An official tax document produced by HM Revenue & Customs or the applicant’s employer, which shows earnings on which tax has been paid or will be paid in a tax year, and is either
- A document produced by HM Revenue & Customs that shows details of declarable taxable income on which tax has been paid or will be paid in a tax year, such as a tax refund letter or tax demand,
- A P60 document produced by an employer as an official return to HM Revenue & Customs, showing details of earnings on which tax has been paid in a tax year, or
- A document produced by a person, business, or company as an official return to HM Revenue & Customs, showing details of earnings on which tax has been paid or will be paid in a tax year, and which has been approved, registered, or stamped by HM Revenue & Customs; or
- Dividend vouchers, confirming the gross and net dividend paid by a company to the applicant, normally from its profits. The applicant must provide a separate dividend voucher or payment advice slip for each dividend payment.
Am I missing some subtlety here? To me it looks like the two documents are referring to the same thing.
Originally I was just planning on submitting 2 year's worth of P60 forms. Can I upload them twice to satisfy both requirements? Or do I need to now procure a separate piece of evidence?
Hi sorry to interrupt your post,
Can I ask please if you stated in the application that you also work/worked as a self employed?
I filled the ILR application coming from GTV before just to check the checklist / documentation requirements and what you displayed did not appear to me exactly in this wording especially the HMRC thing. What was displayed is some generic letter needed from employer for example
Re: Set(O) GTV to ILR - Confusing Evidence Requirements
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:32 pm
by zimba
This often happens when you treat the application as a full disclosure and answer YES to questions which are not relevant to your visa route. You often end up with an inaccurate document list at the end. Form SET(O) covers many visa routes, so you could get questions not relevant to your route which ends up making its document checklist creation somewhat dumb, so you should only answer YES to the questions relevant to your route
Re: Set(O) GTV to ILR - Confusing Evidence Requirements
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:46 pm
by slackdrop
Can I ask please if you stated in the application that you also work/worked as a self employed?
I did not. I stated that I was employed.
Anyways, I just ended up uploading my 2 P60 forms twice. Not that it mattered in the end, ILR got approved on the same day.
Thanks everyone for the help!
Re: Set(O) GTV to ILR - Confusing Evidence Requirements
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:14 am
by AmazonianX
Congratulations
Re: Set(O) GTV to ILR - Confusing Evidence Requirements
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:48 am
by lolo2
Glad you've got approval!
I reckon that both the GTV and ILR (based on this route) forms can be confusing, ambiguous or repetitive. If you had a look the same happens in the part where "evidence of earnings in expert field are requested".
Likely you'll receive a survey or feedback request from UKVI on your GTV or ILR/GTV application. Take this opportunity to let them know that some changes are needed in these forms.
Re: Set(O) GTV to ILR - Confusing Evidence Requirements
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:48 pm
by Mabincredible
slackdrop wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:46 pm
Can I ask please if you stated in the application that you also work/worked as a self employed?
I did not. I stated that I was employed.
Anyways, I just ended up uploading my 2 P60 forms twice. Not that it mattered in the end, ILR got approved on the same day.
Thanks everyone for the help!
Congratulations on getting approved.
Am I right to understand that, while on work visa, you only need to provide p60s even if you also do self-employment that aligns with your leave condition? Thanks.
Re: Set(O) GTV to ILR - Confusing Evidence Requirements
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:02 am
by samory
slackdrop wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:46 pm
Can I ask please if you stated in the application that you also work/worked as a self employed?
I did not. I stated that I was employed.
Anyways, I just ended up uploading my 2 P60 forms twice. Not that it mattered in the end, ILR got approved on the same day.
Thanks everyone for the help!
Congratulations
Did you submit any letters from employer?
Thanks
Re: Set(O) GTV to ILR - Confusing Evidence Requirements
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2023 12:36 pm
by zimba
The OP was on the Global Talent visa which is NOT a sponsored work visa. There are no specific finances or work-related evidence defined under the rules as already shown. You provide whatever you have to show you worked in your respective field
There is no specific earning requirement for ILR under Global Talent Visa route
