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Hi all

I intend to apply for ILR under HSMP JR, by post, within the next 2 weeks.

My situation is:
arrived in UK in Nov 2006,
started working in Jan 2007
changed the employer in Jan 2009, where working till present

As proof of being economically active - have 5 x P60s & letter from HRMC covering all 5 years as well.

Questions:
- do I need to submit letters from my both employers, or only from the current one?
- I haven't been in employment from Nov 2006 - till Jan 2007. Assume not, but still would that somehow count as economically inactive during my 5 years of stay?

I would really appreciate your help & input on this!
A lot of thanks in advance!

Hi VN,
you need letter from your current employer only..
Dont worry about your initial 2 months unemployment. You will be fine.. I was unemplyed for 4 months initially. I was just asked for very recent P60.
Hope that helps

thanks, kdsuk

I'm applying by post so HO have plenty of time to go through all the paperwork so I need to make sure that I'm providing them all the papers required. I read that some people submitted letters from all their employers, and I was just wondering if that is a MUST

what about marriage certificate - do you know if the translation needs to be notarised by a public notary?

thanks again

I Dont think it is 'must' in case of HSMP JR applicants. You just need to show u r economic active during the period. Your P60s are proof of that.

If your partner/spouse is on dependant visa, i dont think marriage certificate is required. Because you would have submitted it earlier when you applied for your spouse dependant visa. UKBA should have record of that.
Just to be on safer side, you can send marriage certificate. If its not in english language, it needs to be translated and to to be attested by public notary

kdsuk wrote:I Dont think it is 'must' in case of HSMP JR applicants. You just need to show u r economic active during the period. Your P60s are proof of that.

If your partner/spouse is on dependant visa, i dont think marriage certificate is required. Because you would have submitted it earlier when you applied for your spouse dependant visa. UKBA should have record of that.
Just to be on safer side, you can send marriage certificate. If its not in english language, it needs to be translated and to to be attested by public notary

Time and again issue of employment letter,its format,this and that, etc has been discussed for many years. The criteria for HSMP JR applicants is to be economically active at the time of application. This can be proved by you payslip/bank statement which are officially recognised. I have contested this requirement for very long time. Now I very humbly request moderators to comment on this and give any reference or link where it says employer letter is required for JR cases

Perhaps this response from UKBA under FOI will help.

Thank you all for your replies & clarification!

kdsuk wrote: Just to be on safer side, you can send marriage certificate. If its not in english language, it needs to be translated and to to be attested by public notary

Just another quick question:
I will be sending the original marriage certificate, with a certified translation. Does the translated copy still needs to be attested by the public notary if I'm sending the original as well?

I just copied following text from UKBA website. That may help you.

Translated documents

You must also provide a translation of any supporting documents that are not in English. If you do not provide a translation of your supporting documents, it might be difficult for our officers to assess your application accurately, which may result in your application being delayed or refused. Each translated document must contain:
confirmation that it is an accurate translation of the original document
the date of the translation
the translator's full name and signature
the translator's contact details

Best wishes

thanks!
can you send me the link please?

sushdmehta wrote:Perhaps this response from UKBA under FOI will help.

Thank you Sushdmehta. I appreciate

well, this link is about supporting documents required for british visa from india.
But I believe, marriage certificate (which is not in english) guidance issued by UKBA is same everywhere..
Senior members on this forum will be able to confirm.
Here is the link

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/count ... %20English

Same principle applies - for in-country applications.

slightly confused then

when I applied for the HSMP extension within UK, the solicitor insisted that the copy has to be notarised, even though I did the send the original as well. The translated copy had all the info mentioned by kdsuk

I decided to do the same this time (applying for ILR by myself this time) but while speaking to few public notaries (the notarisation costs anywhere between £80-150) I got the impression that some of them couldn't get what exactly I want from them.

So I was just not sure what was the exact requirement for this

Logically, you dont need to submit marriage certificate and translated document as you have already submitted before.
If you want to send, send the same marriage certificate/ translated docs which you submitted earlier for HSMP extension.

kdsuk wrote:Logically, you dont need to submit marriage certificate and translated document as you have already submitted before.
If you want to send, send the same marriage certificate/ translated docs which you submitted earlier for HSMP extension.

agree regarding not sending the docs at all, but based on experience, tend not to trust to much the logic of people checking the applications, so to be on the safe side, I think i'll still send the certificate

unfortunately, I haven't saved the a copy of the previous translation/notarisation, so I'll need to do it all over again

oh, well )

Catch the same guy, who translated document for you earlier and make the similar document like the previous one.

Get a translation done - as explained in the link given above. There is no need to get it notarised.