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ILR - Income proof (12 payslips)
Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:44 pm
by lotus123
Hi,
I will be applying for ILR on the 9th of March, but I have a doubt that has recently come up when I am so close to applying...can someone pls help?
One of the requirements is 12 consecutive payslips to prove the income..I was of the opinion that any 12 payslips would be fine from the last 15 months...
I will be providing the follwing the payslips..
Feb - 2011 and Mar - 2011 (2 month payslips)
Apr - 2011 - No payslip (don't have paylsip for this month since I was made redundant this and given a settlement amount.)
May - 2011 to Feb - 2012 providing all 10 months payslips
The Question is, it it okay if i don't provide the payslip for Apr 2011? or do they have to be continous?
I would really appreciate an urgent response as my appointment is on the 9th
Thanks
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:39 am
by hsmpengineer
what the caseworker will be trying to establish is how much you have earned over a given consecutive 12 month period. this 12 month period has to be within the last 15months. so in your case i'll guess you need to show your total earning between feb 2011 and jan 2012. it doesnt matter if you were not paid in one or more mothns within this 12 month period as long as you meet the level of earnings required to claim the points you intend on claiming
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:34 am
by lotus123
Ok. Appreciate your response. Thanks a lot. One last question though...so as per what you mentioned, I need to submit 11 months payslips ?..as I am missing out on one month (Apr)?
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:54 am
by Lucapooka
You need to submit sufficient payslips form the 12 month period that show the necessary income. That could be just 1 payslip or 12, or any number in between.
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:55 am
by hsmpengineer
if you can show you have met the earnings threshold to satsfy your points claim then yes 11 consecutive months pay should be fine. If you can proove you have met the earning threshold with even 3 consecutive months pay then fine!
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:09 am
by lotus123
Thanks a lot guys!! that really helps.
Re: ILR - Income proof (12 payslips)
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:10 am
by ilr_hsmp2007
lotus123 wrote:Hi,
I will be applying for ILR on the 9th of March, but I have a doubt that has recently come up when I am so close to applying...can someone pls help?
One of the requirements is 12 consecutive payslips to prove the income..I was of the opinion that any 12 payslips would be fine from the last 15 months...
I will be providing the follwing the payslips..
Feb - 2011 and Mar - 2011 (2 month payslips)
Apr - 2011 - No payslip (don't have paylsip for this month since I was made redundant this and given a settlement amount.)
May - 2011 to Feb - 2012 providing all 10 months payslips
The Question is, it it okay if i don't provide the payslip for Apr 2011? or do they have to be continous?
I would really appreciate an urgent response as my appointment is on the 9th
Thanks
Case worker considers only the payslips for the period
May - 2011 to Feb - 2012 providing all 10 months payslips
as these are consecutive payslips 12 out of 15.
Check the guidelines, it is clearly mentioned.
redundant cases are handled separately....check this too in the guidelines.
Re: ILR - Income proof (12 payslips)
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:53 am
by lotus123
So from this, if I am satisfying the income criteria to get max points showing the payslips ->
May - 2011 to Feb - 2012 (consectutive 10 months payslips), do i still need to worry about the redundancy thing as I will not be showing the payslips for feb 11, mar 11 anymore?
Re: ILR - Income proof (12 payslips)
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:12 am
by ilr_hsmp2007
lotus123 wrote:So from this, if I am satisfying the income criteria to get max points showing the payslips ->
May - 2011 to Feb - 2012 (consectutive 10 months payslips), do i still need to worry about the redundancy thing as I will not be showing the payslips for feb 11, mar 11 anymore?
No issues ,As long as you meet points with your 10 months payslips then you will get your ILR.
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:30 am
by rshelar
ilr_hsmp2007
is incorrect.
Its ok if you submit all the 11 payslips and one of them for Apr is missing.
The rules for redundancy says you cannot calculate the settlement amount paid to calculate the income.
Also regarding continuous payslips, the caseworker will only consider the latest 12 if you have submitted more than 12.
Say you need to show all 12 months to qualify and you dont have two payslips in between - this is still fine. Only if you submit more than 12 they will consider latest twelve.
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:39 pm
by ilr_hsmp2007
rshelar wrote:ilr_hsmp2007
is incorrect.
Its ok if you submit all the 11 payslips and one of them for Apr is missing.
The rules for redundancy says you cannot calculate the settlement amount paid to calculate the income.
Also regarding continuous payslips, the caseworker will only consider the latest 12 if you have submitted more than 12.
Say you need to show all 12 months to qualify and you dont have two payslips in between - this is still fine. Only if you submit more than 12 they will consider latest twelve.
Mate -- You are on other side of the rules
In the SET (O) form clearly mentioned as consecutive-
You can claim points for previous earnings for any single,
consecutive 12 month period from the 15 months immediately before this application.
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What time period should earnings cover?
The applicant can request that their earnings be considered for any consecutive period of up to twelve months within the fifteen months immediately prior to their application being received by WP (UK).
Applicants do not need to claim for a full twelve-month period. If they only have earnings for a period of less than twelve months then this should still be considered. However, earnings for a period of less than twelve months should not be pro-rated up to a twelve-month equivalent.
Earnings must be for one consecutive period, and the applicant should indicate on the application form the start and end date of the earnings period being claimed.
For example, the applicant can request that we consider the first six months of the fifteen months immediately prior to their application being received. However, we cannot consider the first six months, exclude the middle three months, and include the final six months within the fifteen month period.
If the applicant claims for a period outside/exceeding the twelve months out of a fifteen-month period prior to the
application date, then the twelve months directly prior to the application date should be assessed.
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:16 pm
by lotus123
Ok. Thanks All for your valuable inputs. From the discussion above here is what i plan to do...
submit and claim points for payslips starting from May 2011 to Feb 2012 (10 continuous months) as I still satisfy the critera to get maximum points.
I believe from the discussion above, this should be enough. Please let me know if thats correct.
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:56 pm
by rshelar
Exactly...what you are saying applies if anyone shows more than 12 consecutive months. I have applied as below in the past and got an extension -
Payslips - 1st to 3rd month
No payslip - 4th to 6th month
Payslip - 7th to 12th month.
I did not have the 3 payslips in between and I needed all the 9 payslips with 3 missing to meet income criteria. This is acceptable. If you submit more then only the latest 12 will be considered.
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:35 am
by sh1974
Hi
I'm on tier 1 and I'm applying ilr in dec2012.
Can I show first twelve months salary with in the 15 months period or the latest 12 months salary.please let me know.
By the way I'm considering first 12 months i.e, from september 2011 till august 2012.is it okay.
Thanks in advance.
Sh
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:03 pm
by wpilr_nov12
sh1974 wrote:Hi
I'm on tier 1 and I'm applying ilr in dec2012.
Can I show first twelve months salary with in the 15 months period or the latest 12 months salary.please let me know.
By the way I'm considering first 12 months i.e, from september 2011 till august 2012.is it okay.
Thanks in advance.
Sh
Any 12
consecutive months during the eligible 15 month period.
Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:30 am
by sh1974
wpilr_nov12 wrote:sh1974 wrote:Hi
I'm on tier 1 and I'm applying ilr in dec2012.
Can I show first twelve months salary with in the 15 months period or the latest 12 months salary.please let me know.
By the way I'm considering first 12 months i.e, from september 2011 till august 2012.is it okay.
Thanks in advance.
Sh
Any 12
consecutive months during the eligible 15 month period.
Thanks a lot
Sh
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:44 pm
by arifahmmed
Cancell post.
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:35 pm
by wpilr_nov12
Arifahmmed, duplicate post, ongoing discussion in your above question appears elsewhere on this forum.
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:48 pm
by jimmymcad
Hi Lotus,
I had the similar problem back when I was applying for extension.
I claimed earning May 2008 - April 2009 . I did not have September payslip, because the company got busted. On addition to that, my employer has paid me less salary than my total salary in July and August.
I was scoring sufficient point using my oct-april salary. But
I have been told to use a salary cover letter and list all of your earning and claimed month in it. and it had worked. In the cover letter, in the septemeber column, if i have written "not claimed". It is your choice if you do not wish to allow any months to be claimed as long as you are scoring sufficient point.
Hope it helps.
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:24 am
by samhsmp
ilr_hsmp2007 wrote:In the SET (O) form clearly mentioned as consecutive-
--
What time period should earnings cover?
The applicant can request that their earnings be considered for any consecutive period of up to twelve months within the fifteen months immediately prior to their application being received by WP (UK).
Applicants do not need to claim for a full twelve-month period. If they only have earnings for a period of less than twelve months then this should still be considered. However, earnings for a period of less than twelve months should not be pro-rated up to a twelve-month equivalent.
Earnings must be for one consecutive period, and the applicant should indicate on the application form the start and end date of the earnings period being claimed.
For example, the applicant can request that we consider the first six months of the fifteen months immediately prior to their application being received. However, we cannot consider the first six months, exclude the middle three months, and include the final six months within the fifteen month period.
If the applicant claims for a period outside/exceeding the twelve months out of a fifteen-month period prior to the
application date, then the twelve months directly prior to the application date should be assessed.
Hi ilr_hsmp2007
I am not able to find the above point in the form and neither in the guidance notes (July 2012 version). Did you copy paste from the previous version of Set(O) form?
I was planning to submit only 7 payslips of my permanent employment this year and not the earlier ones wherein I was contracting. But I am unable to find such clause in the form that says - upto 12 months..
Would be grateful if you could please guide me where I can find this!
Many thanks!
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:27 am
by Lucapooka
Lucapooka wrote:You need to submit sufficient payslips form the 12 month period that show the necessary income. That could be just 1 payslip or 12, or any number in between.
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:35 pm
by samhsmp
Lucapooka wrote:Lucapooka wrote:You need to submit sufficient payslips form the 12 month period that show the necessary income. That could be just 1 payslip or 12, or any number in between.
Thanks a bunch Lucapooka. I was able to find it in Annexure of Chapter 6A now after going through your reply again!
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