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EEA (pr)

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:12 am
by marek77
Hello,
I've completed the EEA (pr) and nearly finish but I am quite uncertain about few things:

section 1. C. family members included in your application
I've added my wife
1.29 relationship to sponsor. is about relationship to me as I am sponsor for her in that case?

section 5. space provided Family member's name:
I know to fill my wife name on another copy but do I have to fill my name as well on my copy?

5.2 if applying as family member
I've indicated on my copy not applicable but my wife copy should I fill my date entered to UK?

section 16
16.1 Are you claimed benefits
Do I have to indicate yes? if my wife claimed child tax benefit and she received but I was in application to HMR as partner and on all letters I am as ''Claimed tax credit jointly with the person named above''?

I know the question my be simply or someone but I am confused and try to fill properly.
thanks

Re: EEA (pr)

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 4:53 pm
by noajthan
You keep referring to 'copy' - are you completing 2 forms?

:arrow: You can include wife (dependent) on the same application form as yours.

:idea: Note You don't have to use the latest 'monster' PR form;
you can use an earlier (simpler) version if you wish to make your life easier.

Re: EEA (pr)

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 5:39 am
by marek77
noajthan wrote:You keep referring to 'copy' - are you completing 2 forms?

:arrow: You can include wife (dependent) on the same application form as yours.

:idea: Note You don't have to use the latest 'monster' PR form;
you can use an earlier (simpler) version if you wish to make your life easier.
Yes my wife is on the same aplication. section 5 need do copy of this section for each family member.
What is earlier (simpler) version?

Re: EEA (pr)

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 7:23 am
by LilyLalilu

Re: EEA (pr)

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 7:41 am
by marek77
LilyLalilu wrote:This one for example: https://portal.mpsv.cz/eures/podminky/b ... /eea31.pdf
If I send that EEA3 aplication is there posibiliti to be rejected?
and what address to send?
I can not see page with pyments :(

Re: EEA (pr)

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 7:47 am
by LilyLalilu
Your application cannot be rejected simply because you are using an old form. Just ensure you include the correct payment; you could for example print off the payment page from the EEA PR form.
Post it to the address mentioned on the latest EEA PR form.

Re: EEA (pr)

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 7:56 am
by ohara
Are you and your wife both EEA nationals?

Re: EEA (pr)

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 8:02 am
by marek77
ohara wrote:Are you and your wife both EEA nationals?
yes, and I am try to applay for years 2010-2015 as I can applay straight for british citizen

Re: EEA (pr)

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 8:04 am
by ohara
There is a modified version of the EEA3 form which you can use here which includes the payment page and correct address to send it to: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/128 ... ple_v2.pdf

You can use one form for both of you, make sure the main applicant is the one whose timeline you are relying on.

If your PR qualifying period is 2010-2015 (and the date in 2015 is at least 12 months ago) then yes you can apply for naturalisation as soon as you receive your PR documents.

Re: EEA (pr)

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 8:14 am
by marek77
ohara wrote:There is a modified version of the EEA3 form which you can use here which includes the payment page and correct address to send it to: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/128 ... ple_v2.pdf

You can use one form for both of you, make sure the main applicant is the one whose timeline you are relying on.

If your PR qualifying period is 2010-2015 (and the date in 2015 is at least 12 months ago) then yes you can apply for naturalisation as soon as you receive your PR documents.
Do you know someone who has apply with that application after 18 march 2016?
I am only wory if I applay and wife + 2 kids that 260paund could be charged and rejected with no refund :(

Re: EEA (pr)

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 8:18 am
by ohara
Why do you think it will be rejected? If you meet the requirements and provide enough evidence, it can't be rejected.

Re: EEA (pr)

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 8:25 am
by marek77
ohara wrote:Why do you think it will be rejected? If you meet the requirements and provide enough evidence, it can't be rejected.
Is there any legal requirement that tey have to accept old form EEA3 when is new EEA (pr) issued?

Re: EEA (pr)

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 8:30 am
by ohara
There's no legal requirement to use any form. If you wanted, you could write a letter, and as long as you include the sufficient evidence, they cannot reject it.

It even says in the caseworker guidance:
An EEA(PR) form can be used to submit an application. However, you must not refuse or
reject an application because it is not on the right form. A letter requesting a document
certifying permanent residence or permanent residence card, or an application made on one
of the previous forms (EEA3 or EEA4), is acceptable as long as:
 the correct fee is submitted with the application
So using the old form is not a problem. They prefer you to use the new form because it helps them collect more information which you are not legally required to give.

Re: EEA (pr)

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 8:31 am
by noajthan
marek77 wrote:Is there any legal requirement that tey have to accept old form EEA3 when is new EEA (pr) issued?
No, there is not.

This HO guidance explains the position:
A letter asking for a document to be issued, or an application made on one of the previous forms is acceptable,
Ref https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... s_v3_0.pdf
- see page 8

Re: EEA (pr)

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 8:39 am
by marek77
ohara wrote:There's no legal requirement to use any form. If you wanted, you could write a letter, and as long as you include the sufficient evidence, they cannot reject it.

It even says in the caseworker guidance:
An EEA(PR) form can be used to submit an application. However, you must not refuse or
reject an application because it is not on the right form. A letter requesting a document
certifying permanent residence or permanent residence card, or an application made on one
of the previous forms (EEA3 or EEA4), is acceptable as long as:
 the correct fee is submitted with the application
So using the old form is not a problem. They prefer you to use the new form because it helps them collect more information which you are not legally required to give.
I really can't thank you enough, you are a STAR! all of you :)

Re: EEA (pr)

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 10:25 am
by marek77
marek77 wrote:
ohara wrote:There's no legal requirement to use any form. If you wanted, you could write a letter, and as long as you include the sufficient evidence, they cannot reject it.

It even says in the caseworker guidance:
An EEA(PR) form can be used to submit an application. However, you must not refuse or
reject an application because it is not on the right form. A letter requesting a document
certifying permanent residence or permanent residence card, or an application made on one
of the previous forms (EEA3 or EEA4), is acceptable as long as:
 the correct fee is submitted with the application
So using the old form is not a problem. They prefer you to use the new form because it helps them collect more information which you are not legally required to give.
I really can't thank you enough, you are a STAR! all of you :)
One more question, on EEA3 there nothing about public funds like benefits and time outside UK like holidays witch they are on EEA (pr), Do I have to send that information on separate sheet? What do you think?

Re: EEA (pr)

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 3:15 pm
by noajthan
Benefits and absences from UK only matter in special circumstances.
Do you rely on benefits?
Have you enjoyed prolonged absences from UK whilst exercising treaty rights?

Re: EEA (pr)

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 3:29 pm
by marek77
noajthan wrote:Benefits and absences from UK only matter in special circumstances.
Do you rely on benefits?
Have you enjoyed prolonged absences from UK whilst exercising treaty rights?
I was on aplication chils tax benefit as joint / partner.
absence was 21-29 days a year holiday in Europe.

Re: EEA (pr)

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 3:56 pm
by noajthan
marek77 wrote:
noajthan wrote:Benefits and absences from UK only matter in special circumstances.
Do you rely on benefits?
Have you enjoyed prolonged absences from UK whilst exercising treaty rights?
I was on aplication chils tax benefit as joint / partner.
absence was 21-29 days a year holiday in Europe.
It looks like you have nothing significant to mention in those two areas of benefits and absences then.

Re: EEA (pr)

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 4:17 pm
by marek77
noajthan wrote:
marek77 wrote:
noajthan wrote:Benefits and absences from UK only matter in special circumstances.
Do you rely on benefits?
Have you enjoyed prolonged absences from UK whilst exercising treaty rights?
I was on aplication chils tax benefit as joint / partner.
absence was 21-29 days a year holiday in Europe.
It looks like you have nothing significant to mention in those two areas of benefits and absences then.
thanks for your help

Re: EEA (pr)

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:57 pm
by Sophia08
noajthan wrote:Benefits and absences from UK only matter in special circumstances.
Do you rely on benefits?
Have you enjoyed prolonged absences from UK whilst exercising treaty rights?
So noajthan, do you mean I should still be exercising treaty rights during my absence in the uk? For example i lost my job and then decided to go back to my own country for three months, will my PR clock stop?

Sorry if i ask this question on this thread. I just got confused while reading your conversation.

Thanks!

Re: EEA (pr)

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:07 pm
by noajthan
Sophia08 wrote:
noajthan wrote:Benefits and absences from UK only matter in special circumstances.
Do you rely on benefits?
Have you enjoyed prolonged absences from UK whilst exercising treaty rights?
So noajthan, do you mean I should still be exercising treaty rights during my absence in the uk? For example i lost my job and then decided to go back to my own country for three months, will my PR clock stop?

Sorry if i ask this question on this thread. I just got confused while reading your conversation.

Thanks!
Same answer as here:
eea-route-applications/residence-card-e ... l#p1330564

Continuity of residence is not impacted or interrupted by an absence of up to 6 months in a 12-month period. So normally the PR clock would not stop.

(However if someone had had longer absences it would be a concern and their PR clock may then have been stopped; except, possibly, for a one-time absence in exceptional circumstances of pregnancy or etc).

Re: EEA (pr)

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 8:19 pm
by Sophia08
Thank you so much noajthan for your reply.

This forum is really a big help!