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I would like to apply for a permanent residence card as a European National and I need to clarify the following

1. Supporting documents: do they need to be formally translated/stamped etc if original not in English? if yes what is the procedure to have a document formally translated/stamped for the purposes of the permanent residence card?

2. Somewhere I read we can apply using the old EEA3 form plus covering letter, which is not as "demanding", is it still valid or not?

3. Can they refuse an application on the grounds of section 16/public funds?

4. I have only receipts of paying private insurance with me, do they need to see the actual private insurance contract in order to determine whether it is comprehensive or not?

5. absences for more than six months-less than one year & serious illness: what documents one should provide? is a doctor's letter enough summarising the clinical image? or they need a more detailed break down ie hospital receipts etc?

6. Contact details of HO-EEA applications? I only have an email that does not work.

Thank you in advance

What supporting documents which are not in English do you have?

mmpagi wrote:Congratulations to this site, well informed thank you

I would like to apply for a permanent residence card as a European National and I need to clarify the following

1. Supporting documents: do they need to be formally translated/stamped etc if original not in English? if yes what is the procedure to have a document formally translated/stamped for the purposes of the permanent residence card?

2. Somewhere I read we can apply using the old EEA3 form plus covering letter, which is not as "demanding", is it still valid or not?

3. Can they refuse an application on the grounds of section 16/public funds?

4. I have only receipts of paying private insurance with me, do they need to see the actual private insurance contract in order to determine whether it is comprehensive or not?

5. absences for more than six months-less than one year & serious illness: what documents one should provide? is a doctor's letter enough summarising the clinical image? or they need a more detailed break down ie hospital receipts etc?

6. Contact details of HO-EEA applications? I only have an email that does not work.

Thank you in advance

1) Yes, if not in English or Welsh.

See guidance: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... -04_KP.pdf

2) Yes.
But incomplete/inadequate applications will still be refused

See guidance: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... -04_KP.pdf

3) Maybe. Depends what public funds, how much and what category of qualified person you are (or sponsor is).

4) Maybe. Send contract to be on safe side.

HO plays hardball and will refuse for lack of evidence.

5) As much as possible. Eg doctor and specialists' documents/reports & etc.
This dispensation is for exceptional circumstances only.

6) Search in forum or Gov UK website.
(HO is not very responsive).

member wrote:What supporting documents which are not in English do you have?

a receipt of private insurance payment

the insurance receipt shows payment of life and accident insurance, does it need to mention coverage in the uk as well?

noajthan wrote:

mmpagi wrote:Congratulations to this site, well informed thank you

I would like to apply for a permanent residence card as a European National and I need to clarify the following

1. Supporting documents: do they need to be formally translated/stamped etc if original not in English? if yes what is the procedure to have a document formally translated/stamped for the purposes of the permanent residence card?

2. Somewhere I read we can apply using the old EEA3 form plus covering letter, which is not as "demanding", is it still valid or not?

3. Can they refuse an application on the grounds of section 16/public funds?

4. I have only receipts of paying private insurance with me, do they need to see the actual private insurance contract in order to determine whether it is comprehensive or not?

5. absences for more than six months-less than one year & serious illness: what documents one should provide? is a doctor's letter enough summarising the clinical image? or they need a more detailed break down ie hospital receipts etc?

6. Contact details of HO-EEA applications? I only have an email that does not work.

Thank you in advance

1) Yes, if not in English or Welsh.

See guidance: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... -04_KP.pdf

Thank you

2) Yes.
But incomplete/inadequate applications will still be refused

See guidance: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... -04_KP.pdf

I cannot see in the guidance above that we are able to use older formats of the permanent residence application eg EEA3

Are you sure they would accept the old form which far less intrusive than the new formats?

If yes what if they ask why I did not use the new format?

3) Maybe. Depends what public funds, how much and what category of qualified person you are (or sponsor is).

We are talking about carers allowance and jobseekers allowance

What do you mean by category of qualified person? I do not rely on a sponsor and I am targeting to exercise the 5 years treaty; i came to the UK to study for my MA and PhD but I did not have that comprehensive sickness insurance for all the years (as many of us) :/

4) Maybe. Send contract to be on safe side.

The contract is abroad :/

HO plays hardball and will refuse for lack of evidence.

5) As much as possible. Eg doctor and specialists' documents/reports & etc.
This dispensation is for exceptional circumstances only.

oh dear

6) Search in forum or Gov UK website.
(HO is not very responsive).

I have found only an email address that bounces

See inserted replies above please

mmpagi wrote:

member wrote:What supporting documents which are not in English do you have?

a receipt of private insurance payment

the insurance receipt shows payment of life and accident insurance, does it need to mention coverage in the uk as well?

Yes, UK coverage if you are a student or self-sufficient qualified person who needs to have CSI in place.
If not in one of those categories then why do you plan to submit an insurance receipt?

noajthan wrote:

mmpagi wrote:

member wrote:What supporting documents which are not in English do you have?

a receipt of private insurance payment

the insurance receipt shows payment of life and accident insurance, does it need to mention coverage in the uk as well?

Yes, UK coverage if you are a student or self-sufficient qualified person who needs to have CSI in place.
If not in one of those categories then why do you plan to submit an insurance receipt?

there were some periods in my 5 year history that i was self sufficient receiving rents from abroad

i was also working casually/part time

do they need to see a certain amount of income per year when applying for permanent residence card?

mmpagi wrote:there were some periods in my 5 year history that i was self sufficient receiving rents from abroad

i was also working casually/part time

do they need to see a certain amount of income per year when applying for permanent residence card?

In that case you will need to have had CSI so suggest translate the document (official translation).

EU law only stipulates that work (or self-employment) is genuine and effective rather than being marginal and supplementary.

UK, somewhat controversially, goes above and beyond the cleaner, purer EU law and HO applies its PET/MET thresholds (tests).

You can dig into this critical matter here:
https://www.freemovement.org.uk/using-m ... ne-worker/

Good evening

I am an EU national, and I would like some free initial advice re my application for permanent residence.

I first came in the UK in 2000 to study. After my graduation in 2008, I spent several periods in my home country returning to the UK say twice a year. I live continuously since 2011. I guess I have achieved permanent resident status.

Question 1: If I complete SAR online would they be able to notify me of the date I gained permanent residence according to their records? so I can adjust my application for permanent residence card and naturalisation accordingly?

Question 2: throughout the last years I am on low income, I care for my severely sight impaired mother in the UK and I receive Carers allowance; at the same time, I am either self sufficient, self employed-employed-seeking for work (all apply in different time periods!); question is if highly educated (PhD) but on low income/carers allowance would disqualify me for permanent residence card?

Question 3: how detailed should i go when filling in the permanent residence card form? down to specific dates eg 1/1/12-10/2/2012 I worked casually part time for X or just months eg January 2012-February 2012 I worked for X? your replies would be highly appreciated.

Question 4: do they need the originals of the documents e.g. payslips? do they accept photocopies/print outs and if they do, do I need to certify the photocopies?

Question 5: do they accept a certified photocopy of my national identity card? where can I get official certification of national identity from?

Thank you in advance

mmpagi wrote:Good evening

I am an EU national, and I would like some free initial advice re my application for permanent residence.

I first came in the UK in 2000 to study. After my graduation in 2008, I spent several periods in my home country returning to the UK say twice a year. I live continuously since 2011. I guess I have achieved permanent resident status.

Question 1: If I complete SAR online would they be able to notify me of the date I gained permanent residence according to their records? so I can adjust my application for permanent residence card and naturalisation accordingly?

Question 2: throughout the last years I am on low income, I care for my severely sight impaired mother in the UK and I receive Carers allowance; at the same time, I am either self sufficient, self employed-employed-seeking for work (all apply in different time periods!); question is if highly educated (PhD) but on low income/carers allowance would disqualify me for permanent residence card?

Question 3: how detailed should i go when filling in the permanent residence card form? down to specific dates eg 1/1/12-10/2/2012 I worked casually part time for X or just months eg January 2012-February 2012 I worked for X? your replies would be highly appreciated.

Question 4: do they need the originals of the documents e.g. payslips? do they accept photocopies/print outs and if they do, do I need to certify the photocopies?

Question 5: do they accept a certified photocopy of my national identity card? where can I get official certification of national identity from?

Thank you in advance

Is that free as in 'free speech'?

Its no good guessing that you have acquired PR.

Were you a qualified person? A student with CSI for example?

What is the timeline and duration of those absences from UK? that may be significant.

1) Some members report success with SAR; others have been sadly let down.

2) EU law is very straightforward, there are no shades of grey;
you need to have been a qualified person, continuously, for 5 years. Or sponsored by someone who was a qp/settled in UK.

Get up to speed here:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _clean.pdf

3) As detailed as possible. Why give HO the Spam of 'wriggle room'?

4) Yes.
No.

5) If you are EEA you could use the new document check service and retain your precious original docs.

Posts merged.
No need for multiple posts.

mmpagi wrote:

noajthan wrote:2) Yes.
But incomplete/inadequate applications will still be refused

See guidance: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... -04_KP.pdf

I cannot see in the guidance above that we are able to use older formats of the permanent residence application eg EEA3

Are you sure they would accept the old form which far less intrusive than the new formats?

If yes what if they ask why I did not use the new format?

It is the case despite not being stated in the guidance above.
The guidance is not the full story, rather it is edited highlights if you will;
the map is not the territory.

Forms EEA(QP), EEA(FM), EEA(EFM) and EEA(PR) came into use on 30 January 2015. However, you may continue to see applications made on the previous forms.
This is acceptable, provided the applicant pays the specified fee

Ref page 7: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... s_v4.0.pdf
- however, this dispensation appears to be going to be removed early next year (despite EU law).