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EEA permanent residence card: some questions

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:58 pm
by LondonApplicant
I understand an EAA citizen wishiping to apply for naturalisation now needs a permanent residence card to prove his/her permanent resident status. However, from the goc.uk website I don't quite understand how one is supposed to apply for the permanent residence card.

The website on naturalisation states that ( https://www.gov.uk/becoming-a-british-citizen ) EAA citizens must have
permanent residence if you’re an EEA national (and you have a permanent residence card or document that shows you have permanent residence)
and reports his link: https://www.gov.uk/apply-for-a-uk-resid ... dence-card

However, the link reports conditions for family members of EAA citizens, not for EAA citizens themselves. I am confused. :?

My questions are:
  1. Should the correct link be this one: https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... orm-eea-pr ?
  2. Does the EAA citizen need to prove that his/her family were resident in the UK, too, even when they are not part of the application? I came to the country as an EAA citizen then naturalised. My wife is an EAA citizen who now wants to naturalise. I have been here 10 years, she about 8. We have a daughter with British citizenship who was born here.
  3. The guidance documents say that European identity cards are acceptable proof of id (instead of passports), but is some kind of official translation needed? Unlike passports, ID cards do not have a section translating the headings in a number of different languages.
Thanks.

Re: EEA permanent residence card: some questions

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:22 pm
by noajthan
1) Yes

2) No

3) If not in English (or Welsh) translation is apparently required, as per PR guidance notes.

Re: EEA permanent residence card: some questions

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:29 pm
by LondonApplicant
noajthan wrote:1) Yes

2) No

3) If not in English (or Welsh) translation is apparently required, as per PR guidance notes.
On the 3rd point, may I ask if that is your interpretation or your experience? On one hand the notes say documents not in english require a translation, on the other hand this is not said explicitly about ID cards (and what do Id cards contain other than name, DOB, etc), so I'm not sure. If a translation is required, can the applicant draft one himself/herself, or is some official translation required? I couldn't understand this from the notes.

Re: EEA permanent residence card: some questions

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:53 pm
by noajthan
LondonApplicant wrote:
noajthan wrote:1) Yes

2) No

3) If not in English (or Welsh) translation is apparently required, as per PR guidance notes.
On the 3rd point, may I ask if that is your interpretation or your experience? On one hand the notes say documents not in english require a translation, on the other hand this is not said explicitly about ID cards (and what do Id cards contain other than name, DOB, etc), so I'm not sure. If a translation is required, can the applicant draft one himself/herself, or is some official translation required? I couldn't understand this from the notes.
I haven't had to translate any European id cards.

If they are official EU id cards you'd imagine the format and layout is known and standardised across all member states; (as per some 500-page EU regulation).
After all, what do we pay all that VAT for?!

Homebrew translations won't be accepted, the guidance notes do say 'official translation'.
But its a good point, surely EU-standard id cards can't need translation.

Re: EEA permanent residence card: some questions

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:25 am
by LondonApplicant
Thank you. One last question. The form, section 5 page 28, asks about absences from the UK since entering the country. However, the guidance notes from section 5 talk about the last 5 years of residence.

Which is it? Shall an EAA applicant who has been here for 8 years list absences in the last 5 or in all of the 8 years?

Thanks.