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Hi everyone,

I've lived in the UK for almost 10 years and my partner and I've been married for six years of this time.

Previously we didn't think it necessary for me to settle as a British citizen but with everything going on we want to be safe rather than sorry later and get me a British passport.

Now I've looked at the lovely long winded forms and am highly confused which of the many EEA forms I need to use... I.e would a EEA QP be sufficient as proof for the citizenship application or does it have to be the PR form???

My problem is that the QP can be done in one of their premium locations while the PR can't... And as my job requires me to travel to continental Europe every two months for a day or two I can't risk not getting my passport back for months (seems to take rather long these days looking at comments!)

If it has to be the PR does anyone know if it works to use the Post Office document certification service instead of sending in the original? Additjally I could throw in my provisional driving license... Which would be the original photo ID and is a UK one!

Thanks,

Marc

What have you been doing during your time in the UK in order to exercise your Treaty rights? Have you been employed for the 5 year qualifying period, or if not have you held comprehensive sickness insurance (CSI) or a EHIC card from your home country?

Casa wrote:What have you been doing during your time in the UK in order to exercise your Treaty rights? Have you been employed for the 5 year qualifying period, or if not have you held comprehensive sickness insurance (CSI) or a EHIC card from your home country?

I've been working the whole time. There was a break of 2 days in 2008, worked continuously from August 2008 until November 2013 for a single employer. Moved in November 2013 to my current employer (no day of break in between these two jobs) and still full time employed now

EEA (PR) if your aim is confirmation of (any) settled status.

Are you A8? if so, how about WRS?

No, you can't use a UK license to confirm id as a Union citizen.

No, PO C&S service is for passports.
NCS is for naturalisation.

It comes down to opportunity cost - travel versus DCPR.
Or request docs back after filing bundle.

noajthan wrote:EEA (PR) if your aim is confirmation of (any) settled status.

Are you A8? if so, how about WRS?

No, you can't use a UK license to confirm id as a Union citizen.

No, PO C&S service is for passports.
NCS is for naturalisation.

It comes down to opportunity cost - travel versus DCPR.
Or request docs back after filing bundle.

Aim is to be able to eventually apply for a British passport so I guess I'll need the PR?

What does A8 and WRS refer to? Update: found the answer, nope I don't fall into the A8 list, I'm from Germany originally.

I know I've got a trip booked at the end of August, guessing it's a bit risky to send them of before that? Or are they usually fairly quick to send back the passport if you request the documents back?

Medran wrote:Aim is to be able to eventually apply for a British passport so I guess I'll need the PR?

What does A8 and WRS refer to? Update: found the answer, nope I don't fall into the A8 list, I'm from Germany originally.

I know I've got a trip booked at the end of August, guessing it's a bit risky to send them of before that? Or are they usually fairly quick to send back the passport if you request the documents back?

Members have reported between 4 and many many days. (Quoted SLA for return of documents/passport is 10 days).
Can you travel on any German id?

noajthan wrote:

Medran wrote:Aim is to be able to eventually apply for a British passport so I guess I'll need the PR?

What does A8 and WRS refer to? Update: found the answer, nope I don't fall into the A8 list, I'm from Germany originally.

I know I've got a trip booked at the end of August, guessing it's a bit risky to send them of before that? Or are they usually fairly quick to send back the passport if you request the documents back?

Members have reported between 4 and many many days. (Quoted SLA for return of documents/passport is 10 days).
Can you travel on any German id?

Unfortunately not. The only travel ID I've got is my German passport. Germany does not allow for he renewal of our ID cards if you are not registered in a German city and the one I had expired a long time ago. :/

I guess best course of action is get all the evidence ready and post out the pack the day we are back from our Holiday. Might as well start doing the English and life in the UK test until that point and if I'm lucky I'll have the PR by the time that's finished to continue on to the next stage lol

Medran wrote:I guess best course of action is get all the evidence ready and post out the pack the day we are back from our Holiday. Might as well start doing the English and life in the UK test until that point and if I'm lucky I'll have the PR by the time that's finished to continue on to the next stage lol

Sounds like a plan.

So you have probably acquired PR sometime around 2011 or 2012 if you arrived in 2006(?);
on that basis you can shoot for privilege of citizenship once you have your DCPR and assuming all other requirements for naturalisation have been/can be met.

noajthan wrote:

Medran wrote:I guess best course of action is get all the evidence ready and post out the pack the day we are back from our Holiday. Might as well start doing the English and life in the UK test until that point and if I'm lucky I'll have the PR by the time that's finished to continue on to the next stage lol

Sounds like a plan.

So you have probably acquired PR sometime around 2011 or 2012 if you arrived in 2006(?);
on that basis you can shoot for privilege of citizenship once you have your DCPR and assuming all other requirements for naturalisation have been/can be met.

Yep. I arrived at the beginning of 2007 so not quite 10 years but plenty for the DCPR.

I better get on the passing those tests now.

I wonder if the fact that I've done my Learning and Development QCF(NVQ) in English via University would be an accepted form of studies in English to not have to do an English test??? (Guessing it's not high enough in terms of qualifications to count as accepted proof of studies in English?)

And thanks for all your help! ^^

Medran wrote:I wonder if the fact that I've done my Learning and Development QCF(NVQ) in English via University would be an accepted form of studies in English to not have to do an English test??? (Guessing it's not high enough in terms of qualifications to count as accepted proof of studies in English?)

And thanks for all your help! ^^

For English, its a SELT or UK degree that's required:
https://www.gov.uk/english-language/overview

Good luck.

noajthan wrote:

Medran wrote:I wonder if the fact that I've done my Learning and Development QCF(NVQ) in English via University would be an accepted form of studies in English to not have to do an English test??? (Guessing it's not high enough in terms of qualifications to count as accepted proof of studies in English?)

And thanks for all your help! ^^

For English, its a SELT or UK degree that's required:
https://www.gov.uk/english-language/overview

Good luck.

Thanks for that link! I am surprised they don't accept things like holding a TESOL as proof of English language. Oh well I guess being certified to be capable of teaching English isn't good enough.

Medran wrote:Thanks for that link! I am surprised they don't accept things like holding a TESOL as proof of English language. Oh well I guess being certified to be capable of teaching English isn't good enough.

Its not about English capability anymore its about level of trust.
Due to various abuses and flaws the system has been tightened up to focus on SELTs.

noajthan wrote:

Medran wrote:Thanks for that link! I am surprised they don't accept things like holding a TESOL as proof of English language. Oh well I guess being certified to be capable of teaching English isn't good enough.

Its not about English capability anymore its about level of trust.
Due to various abuses and flaws the system has been tightened up to focus on SELTs.

Makes sense!

Do you know if this form can still be used instead of the extremely long current PR document?

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/128 ... ple_v2.pdf

I found it in this forum on another post!

Medran wrote:Makes sense!

Do you know if this form can still be used instead of the extremely long current PR document?

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/128 ... ple_v2.pdf

I found it in this forum on another post!

It can; current form is not mandatory.

noajthan wrote:

Medran wrote:Makes sense!

Do you know if this form can still be used instead of the extremely long current PR document?

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/128 ... ple_v2.pdf

I found it in this forum on another post!

It can; current form is not mandatory.

Perfect! Much easier than the other one.

Thanks again for all the help