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Permanent resident card and HO request for more details

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:19 pm
by daliflor
Hello,

I'm in the process of applying for PR, being romanian citizen, EU2 EEA country. I've sent a tone of papers in Jan 2016 and recently I've received letter from them regarding need of more documents.
I was self-employed period Jan 2010 to Jan 2014 then employee since 2014 and ongoing. I was asked to provide documents for period 2010-2012 (not sure ?why just this period). I am concerned that yellow card/blue card required and don't have it because in 2011 when I've called HO I was told is not mandatory (unfortunately I can't proof it). I was thinking to write a letter and explain why yellow/blue card not available....I will need more guidelines how to go around it.
Any help will be much appreciate it.
Regards.

Re: Permanent resident card and HO request for more details

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:32 pm
by noajthan
To avoid confusion & jumbled responses, I have moved your question to its own thread (this one).

Re: Permanent resident card and HO request for more details

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:34 pm
by noajthan
daliflor wrote:Hello,

I'm in the process of applying for PR, being romanian citizen, EU2 EEA country. I've sent a tone of papers in Jan 2016 and recently I've received letter from them regarding need of more documents.
I was self-employed period Jan 2010 to Jan 2014 then employee since 2014 and ongoing. I was asked to provide documents for period 2010-2012 (not sure ?why just this period). I am concerned that yellow card/blue card required and don't have it because in 2011 when I've called HO I was told is not mandatory (unfortunately I can't proof it). I was thinking to write a letter and explain why yellow/blue card not available....I will need more guidelines how to go around it.
Any help will be much appreciate it.
Regards.
My understanding is that Bulgarian/Romanian nationals who were self-employed, self-sufficient or retired did not have to apply for a Yellow Certificate. It was voluntary.

What were you doing to exercise treaty rights in UK during 2010-2012?

Re: Permanent resident card and HO request for more details

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:59 am
by daliflor
noajthan wrote:
daliflor wrote:Hello,

I'm in the process of applying for PR, being romanian citizen, EU2 EEA country. I've sent a tone of papers in Jan 2016 and recently I've received letter from them regarding need of more documents.
I was self-employed period Jan 2010 to Jan 2014 then employee since 2014 and ongoing. I was asked to provide documents for period 2010-2012 (not sure ?why just this period). I am concerned that yellow card/blue card required and don't have it because in 2011 when I've called HO I was told is not mandatory (unfortunately I can't proof it). I was thinking to write a letter and explain why yellow/blue card not available....I will need more guidelines how to go around it.
Any help will be much appreciate it.
Regards.
My understanding is that Bulgarian/Romanian nationals who were self-employed, self-sufficient or retired did not have to apply for a Yellow Certificate. It was voluntary.

What were you doing to exercise treaty rights in UK during 2010-2012?

Period 2010-2012 I was in the process to get PIN no from NMC (becoming official general nurse in UK- got it end of 2011), in the mean time I was working for my own as a cleaner (houses and hotel) period 2010- end of 2011. The only things I've got 2010-2011 are: letter from HO confirming tax returns, statement from the depart. of work and pension showing NI contributions, statement from HO stating self-employment start date, and EHIC since Apr 2011, invoices book for that period. Is it enough?
I'm not sure how to explain voluntary Yellow card as no proof of call I made back in 2011.

Re: Permanent resident card and HO request for more details

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:22 am
by noajthan
daliflor wrote:Period 2010-2012 I was in the process to get PIN no from NMC (becoming official general nurse in UK- got it end of 2011), in the mean time I was working for my own as a cleaner (houses and hotel) period 2010- end of 2011. The only things I've got 2010-2011 are: letter from HO confirming tax returns, statement from the depart. of work and pension showing NI contributions, statement from HO stating self-employment start date, and EHIC since Apr 2011, invoices book for that period. Is it enough?
I'm not sure how to explain voluntary Yellow card as no proof of call I made back in 2011.
If you were self-employed my understanding is you didn't have to have a yellow card.
HO will know this as they made the regulaions so you don't need proof of any phone call.

You can see what you need to be considered as selfemployed in this HO guidance:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _clean.pdf