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Status Gap

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 4:28 pm
by jjm07
Hello

I graduated in the UK in November 2011. A few days later I received a verbal job offer. However the Human Resources department of new company took ages to issue the contract and process the paperwork which meant I only started my new job on 24 January 2012.

What is my status for the period November 2011 and 24 January 2012?

Re: Status Gap

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 4:35 pm
by noajthan
Jujumar87 wrote:Hello

I graduated in the UK in November 2011. A few days later I received a verbal job offer. However the Human Resources department of new company took ages to issue the contract and process the paperwork which meant I only started my new job on 24 January 2012.

What is my status for the period November 2011 and 24 January 2012?
Unemployed.

Did you have CSI?

Re: Status Gap

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 5:34 pm
by jjm07
Unemployed? Sure I was at least 'looking for a job', how can someone go from 'looking for a job' to 'unemployed' when they received an offer? What about people who are made redundant etc.?

Re: Status Gap

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 6:11 pm
by noajthan
Jujumar87 wrote:Unemployed? Sure I was at least 'looking for a job', how can someone go from 'looking for a job' to 'unemployed' when they received an offer? What about people who are made redundant etc.?
You probably don't have evidence of 'jobseeking' as you had secured a job. So you were not a jobseeker qualified person in the context of EU freemovement and treaty rights.

Unless you had funds and CSI in place and can make a case for being a selfsufficient qualified person then you were economically inactive (unemployed).
There's no shame in that, I've been unemployed myself 'back in the day'.
But in terms of treaty rights it doesn't help you and your PR clock will have stopped.

Incidentally did you have CSI (or alternative) as a student?

Re: Status Gap

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 7:52 am
by Noetic
If OP didn't have CSI or a foreign issued EHIC then the student years wouldn't count in the first place so it's a moot point? And if they did then they can be classed as self sufficient unless they cancelled CSI as soon as uni finished.

Re: Status Gap

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 11:35 am
by noajthan
Noetic wrote:If OP didn't have CSI or a foreign issued EHIC then the student years wouldn't count in the first place so it's a moot point? And if they did then they can be classed as self sufficient unless they cancelled CSI as soon as uni finished.
Hence my question about CSI which gets to the heart of the matter by a finely-tuned process of elucidation (rather than second-guessing).

Re: Status Gap

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:04 pm
by jjm07
Yes and up to 31/12/2011. Got the offer in November 2011 but started on 24/01/2012 due to HR being super slow

Am I going to lose the clock for 24 days?! I did apply to some other jobs in the meantime as I was worried by HR slowness. I cannot provide much more than a few job application and my registration at a jobcentre in December.

Re: Status Gap

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:29 pm
by noajthan
Jujumar87 wrote:Yes and up to 31/12/2011. Got the offer in November 2011 but started on 24/01/2012 due to HR being super slow

Am I going to lose the clock for 24 days?! I did apply to some other jobs in the meantime as I was worried by HR slowness. I cannot provide much more than a few job application and my registration at a jobcentre in December.
You may be alright for 24 days. All you can do is apply and see.
There's no guidance on how small a gap has to be to be ignored.

Re: Status Gap

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 10:01 pm
by jjm07
OK thanks. Are there any tips to make a 'maybe' become a 'yes'? Or is it just random?

Re: Status Gap

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 10:05 pm
by noajthan
Jujumar87 wrote:OK thanks. Are there any tips to make a 'maybe' become a 'yes'? Or is it just random?
Without someone on the inside there's no sure way of knowing.

Just accentuate the positive and make sure the evidence to back your case is rock solid.